"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I don't see the appeal in plate spinning/one night stands after college

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I just don't have the time or energy to waste my time with it. In addition, it's harder to meet girls my age now. In college this mentality made sense because you were surrounded with women your age, had a lot of free time, and little to no responsibility. Now, I have to find time between work for workouts and hobbies, do not live walking distance from a bar, so I have to worry about DUIS and ubers, adult bars are a lot more expensive than college bars, rather stick with one girl because of scarcity and **** logistics laws, have it difficult with most women because I'm not a black O'dawg, lazy, don't have access to reliable friends like I did in college, and etc. Maybe I just suck :(
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I hate to be that guy but you're just not made for this, you just aren't.

That is the problem with this forum and others, we try to help everyone but the reality is that there are a sizable number of guys who are just not made for this sort of a lifestyle. I doubt that even in college you were having one night stands and spinning plates, I really really do. I think you were one of those awkward kids at a party who never got any.

You can have the best logistics but the reality is, it all comes down to you. Girls would rather drive miles to see an alpha than sleep with a beta that lives next door to them.

I think you're a lost cause and I don't think you will make it. You will either die lonely or at best be the guy she settles down with after she is done having her fun. It takes a certain kind of strong personality, proactive approach, and alpha sort of demeanor to make it and you simply don't have it. Of all the people in this forum, you are the last person I would want to meet in real life. I could imagine you spilling out all of your sob stories to any girl that is desperate enough to go on a date with you, that is what I imagine you to be.

It doesn't matter the phase of life or what circumstances may exist, you are not made for this, period.

You are not made to be that guy and that is perfectly okay.

Pursue other meaningful interests in life and learn to live a life without women. If desperate enough then go see the few escorts that want to see black guys and if need be, consider going for women past their prime and being their bread winner if you want a family life so bad but I can say with full confidence you are not made for this lifestyle.
 

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I just don't have the time or energy to waste my time with it. In addition, it's harder to meet girls my age now. In college this mentality made sense because you were surrounded with women your age, had a lot of free time, and little to no responsibility. Now, I have to find time between work for workouts and hobbies, do not live walking distance from a bar, so I have to worry about DUIS and ubers, adult bars are a lot more expensive than college bars, rather stick with one girl because of scarcity and **** logistics laws, have it difficult with most women because I'm not a black O'dawg, lazy, don't have access to reliable friends like I did in college, and etc. Maybe I just suck :(
This is the place for self improvement! It's gold!

Stand tall, keep your head up!!!:D
 

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I hate to be that guy but you're just not made for this, you just aren't.

That is the problem with this forum and others, we try to help everyone but the reality is that there are a sizable number of guys who are just not made for this sort of a lifestyle. I doubt that even in college you were having one night stands and spinning plates, I really really do. I think you were one of those awkward kids at a party who never got any.

You can have the best logistics but the reality is, it all comes down to you. Girls would rather drive miles to see an alpha than sleep with a beta that lives next door to them.

I think you're a lost cause and I don't think you will make it. You will either die lonely or at best be the guy she settles down with after she is done having her fun. It takes a certain kind of strong personality, proactive approach, and alpha sort of demeanor to make it and you simply don't have it. Of all the people in this forum, you are the last person I would want to meet in real life. I could imagine you spilling out all of your sob stories to any girl that is desperate enough to go on a date with you, that is what I imagine you to be.

It doesn't matter the phase of life or what circumstances may exist, you are not made for this, period.

You are not made to be that guy and that is perfectly okay.

Pursue other meaningful interests in life and learn to live a life without women. If desperate enough then go see the few escorts that want to see black guys and if need be, consider going for women past their prime and being their bread winner if you want a family life so bad but I can say with full confidence you are not made for this lifestyle.
Well you can keep believing the bullshvt and making a crybaby topic about how you can't get a white girl every day. Shocker that I have probably screwed more white women than how many white girl topics you have made :)
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Oh yeah, don't listen to olly.
 

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I have a gf too, but idk what I want. My dream girl is a light skinned dark haired latina girl or Ariana Grande hot damn.
 

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I have a gf too, but idk what I want. My dream girl is a light skinned dark haired latina girl or Ariana Grande hot damn.
If it's mainly her looks turning you on, you're missing the whole point. You're still in level 1 of chemistry between two people and that kind of chemistry never holds long.
 

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I hate to be that guy but you're just not made for this, you just aren't.

That is the problem with this forum and others, we try to help everyone but the reality is that there are a sizable number of guys who are just not made for this sort of a lifestyle.
This is not a PUA forum.
As someone who has been around here on and off for a decade we have gotten away from the core beliefs that make this website different than others.

At heart this community is about being a stand-up guy in life, just not with women.
The "lifestyle" that was originally preached here was:
-Get fit. Get in the gym.
-Get your career in order.
-Be a leader among men
-Keep progressing in life and improving yourself.

Women are the byproduct of this, not the main goal. Its always been about you.

@OP you don't have to spin plates bro.
If you are a one woman at a time man that's perfectly acceptable.

Just never get so attached to that one woman you allow her to treat you like anything other than the king you are.
On the flip side be fair with her and treat her well too.
 
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