"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I don't know whether to laugh or cry.....

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iqqi said:
I find this to be true, as well.

You just have to know what people are good for. Some of them are just there for entertainment!

So should I thank you for entertaining me?

Oooh SNAP! :flowers:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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iqqi said:
I find this to be true, as well.

You just have to know what people are good for. Some of them are just there for entertainment!
Funny, that's exactly how I look at it!! Even the lowest of the low common denominators can at least provide one w/ some entertainment value. That's not a cruel outlook, IMO; it's simply turning lemons into lemonade. :yes:
 

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In my eyes...when it comes to women: Quality is not about looks (as they are going to go away), it is not about education or lack of...as those things are more of "preferrences" than anything else. Quality in this case is about RESPECT for her man.

And when it comes to men: Quality is not about social standard or health or age...as that is also about preferrences...Quality in this case is actually about POSITIVE Masculinity and ability to PROVIDE (e.g. emotionally, mentally, etc.).
 

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Latinoman,

I agree with you. Quality women are those with RESPECT and quality men are those with an ability to PROVIDE (emotionally, physically, socially).

However, we can't get centered on pre-assumed "gender roles." Like a pumped up religion, most guys here say women SHOULD be this (submissive, humble, caring, nurting) and men SHOULD be this (strong, brave, provider,) and in actuality, those are preassumed gender roles made up by other men then retaught to this generation.

Instead, the focus should be on being a WHOLE PERSON. A whole person with internal peace, joy, and satisification, with an overall appreciation for life. Then an external determination to achieve great things, make the world a better place, and deal with any issues FACE ON.

This WHOLE PERSON should be what any man or woman should strive for.

Then when it comes to a valuable relationship, this WHOLE PERSON should seek another WHOLE PERSON.

So the two come together to ENJOY life and SHARE in its experiences, instead of coming together in a handicapped fashion and expecting the other to CARRY or FILL A GAP in their lives.
 

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I am not into spirituality and all that stuff. Therefore, I am not going to talk about "internal" person stuff.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Latinoman I think focusing on the internal side of things FIRST would make guys more succcessful.

I honestly believe this entire thing is more of an internal connection then anything.:up:
 

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Here is MY opinion when it comes to "suicidal" issues:

I stay away from that stuff, because I am NOT a trained psycologist or psychiatrist. Many times people do a LOT more harm by trying to "help" with their words. In a way, what they do is help bring things that are buried deep in the subconscious of the person and potentially putting his/her life and the life of others at risk.

Situations in which NON experts have given words of encouragement to a person...has translated into the person becoming "selfish" and harming others (e.g. "source of their stress").

Threads about people wanting to commit suicide has no room in a place like this.
 

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Also...by providing "help"...what people are doing is encouraging the person to continue to seek help in message boards, instead of seeking help with trained PROFESSIONALS.

As I said...the best thing is to tell the person to seek help with train professionals and leave it at that.

"Gerard...go seek help from a train professional." That's the only thing I would have wrote.
 
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