You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
This is golden Aliasguy..aliasguy said:Accept women for what they are and what they can offer. Expect no more. Love them, be with them, enjoy them --- even be kind to them & help them, even BEFRIEND them.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
This is my take on your post ,STR8uP...STR8UP said:Went out with some friends tonite.....
....I sensed that this chick was vibing me. Maybe not even vibing me, but sending out "availability signals". She WAS with her b/f, but you know when you just get that feeling......
ok i missed something then. at what point did she suggest that she is cheating on her husband.STR8UP said:Joe, you are completely missing the point.
The fact that she was being "friendly" was incidental.
The thing that I was commenting on was the open, matter of fact manner which she conveyed the fact that she is married and cheating. Almost like "It's the thing to do nowadays, and I'm proud of it".
It shouldn't surprise me but for some reason I see stuff like this and from time to time I just have to stop and ask myself what kind of world it is I am living in.
i'll start using caps if you tell your mother to stop making that sour face when i blow my load on her face.Aenigma said:Joker, is there a reason you don't start your sentences with a capital letter? If there isn't a good reason I suggest you do, not doing so makes you look like an idiot.
That second sentence is not grammatically correct, idiot. I see at least two errors.Aenigma said:Joker, is there a reason you don't start your sentences with a capital letter? If there isn't a good reason I suggest you do, not doing so makes you look like an idiot.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
i agree with this 100%. str8up, almost every single issue you've had with women that we know about (via your posts) take place in 'party' situations or your relationship with such woman originated from an introduction at some party.jophil28 said:Firstly, you appear to hang out with a "party crowd ". Party people act like party people - all immediate gratification and fun, fun and more fun. However,there is a large part of you that is seeking a woman for a serious LTR- you frequently refer to this possibility. You are not likely o find a great woman in this crowd.
You go fishing in the river, you are gonna catch catfish. The marlin are offshore, out in the deep water .
joekerr31 said:i agree with this 100%. str8up, almost every single issue you've had with women that we know about (via your posts) take place in 'party' situations or your relationship with such woman originated from an introduction at some party.
whether it was some stripper you fingered in the hot tub or the various chics who seem to come over to your place as 'friends' and sleep in your bed for the night... it just seems like you are around a lot of 'uncommon' situations with the female gender.
you need to find yourself a down to earth woman and go on a date to the museum or something.
aliasguy said:And, it was crystal clear in STR8UP's original post that the married chick was fooling around with her boyfriend/date.
Oh BTW ,STR8uP, I do recall a recent post on MM in which there was fierce debate about the morals of banging married women. You aligned yourself with the group of guys who said " Go for it" -- . no moral dilemma for STR8UP in fukking married women. HOW you are pissed because you have encountered a married woman who is banging her B/f - !!!STR8UP said:So here we are walking back toward my place, and I quietly ask my lady friend if this chick (her friend) really has a b/f and a husband. Well I guess indeed she does! and the funny thing is, it's New Years and the guy she was with was the b/f! Walking down the street holding hands....her talking about how he was gonna fukk her silly later on.......
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
STR8UP said:You are absolutely right.
I have talked in the past about not having expectations.
Problem is, if you can't ever expect that your partner or your friend or whoever you deal with regularly is going to play fair, well, that really sucks cause you're always gonna be looking behind your back. I hate that I have to do that, but no matter how much I watch my back it doesn't do anything to prevent sh!t from happening. Things are as they are.
Luthor Rex said:I hope to post more later, but I'll leave this comment now:
I think what STR8UP is trying to get at is that he doesn't want to live in a world where he can't trust who he's sleeping next to.
There have been many times in the past where I've been told I have standards that are too high. The problem I see is that my 'standards' for what I want in a woman are something like this:
Faithful
Kind
Intelligent
Warm
Trustworthy
If the above traits mean my standards are "too high" then wtf exactly am I supposed to accept? I remember one being told I should make a list of "everything I want in a woman, then rip the list up because it's unrealistic".
To which I go:![]()
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.