"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"I dont do that anymore"

brad67

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Ive known this girl for a couple months, but I recently just started to hit on her and I've been getting good results. Last night, we were both (I more than her) a little tipsy and we started to make out at a party. Naturally, I got bored of this rather quickly and started to take things to a more fun level when she says "No I dont do that anymore" and "No, that would be bad" when I ask her to go upstairs or even to take her shirt off. She used to have a reputation for being kind of a slut, so I know she used to have fun with guys... should I be discouraged by this? I asked her why and she just kept saying "Not now, that would be bad".

Any thoughts?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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she still does that sort of thing, and is considerin doin it with you

use kino and the 'it's our world, sex is healthy' angle, she wants to be seduced
 

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I believe this is a case of ASD.

"I don't do that anymore" = "I'm not like that" = "I don't want to be seen as a slvt"

Run a search for Anti Slvt Defence.
Best of luck to you.

-Bill
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Boner da Stoner

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anti slut defense

:p stop pushing her so hard, If you want something so bad sometimes you have to wait:)

There are girls that a real man would say wow to just to get to know her. Those girls sometimes have negative convictions about themselves, and have created sets of actions so they DON'T FVCK VP anymore. This is where the shield you see comes in, what you do when you pick her up tonight is realize she either thins she's not drunk enough, not your slut, or she just doesn't want to have sex cause she hasn't gotten wet yet.

Foreplay is key you've heard by millions of AFC men and women, too true I say. Foreplay is probably what you didn't have.
 

DJ4Real

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Chances are, she isn't attracted to you enough to have sex with you.

Either that or she's a tease and wants to see if you'll chase after her.
 

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You were just pinging off the damage shield.
 

Boner da Stoner

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Those things she said. If she was in the mood, are WAYYYYY too far out of context.

Just picture yourself with the girl, with your thoughts, than picture her saying those words, do they contend with your belief or what she should believe? Anybody know what imaging technique I'm using, I can't remember the name.

Anyways, she was **** testing you.

You failed.

Nice FR though, I like how you pinpointed exactly what you did wrong, it was tough for me to figure out right away.
 

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You didn't make her want it enough.

Boner da Stoner hit the nail on the head. Gotta be a bit more patient, and work her up more. Don't broadcast what you're doing, just work your way to it in a teasing, tantalizing way. If she stops you at some point, just accept that as her limit at that time, and continue doing what you were doing ... but break it off first, if you think to. That's the best way to have her wanting more.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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bman

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you're going to have to play hard to get with her.
 
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