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I agree with 2 out of three of these. Pain and sadness in the future. Confusion right now in the present.WhtRbt said:I predict pain, sadness, and confusion in op's future
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
I agree with 2 out of three of these. Pain and sadness in the future. Confusion right now in the present.WhtRbt said:I predict pain, sadness, and confusion in op's future
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
She'll probably use this song to describe you.CoolGuy64 said:I got THE perfect song to describe her, too:
Listen to Miss Independent by Kelly Clarkson.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Exactly my point.pooparu said:No because there were a bunch of KBJs telling him how badly he would fail if he tried it.
Well here's my take on it. **** happens because you SAY it happens. Your thoughts and actions create your reality. This is precisely why I'm NOT focused on "what is" but what I INTEND them to be. I'm always looking inside myself to find out what I need to improve on so I can make a decision based on that. If I'm too tense or too anxious, I stay away from her until I'm relaxed and confident enough to talk to her in a way that'll bring her energy and attraction up a level. Cause when I'm with her, I'm SO energetic and crazy happy. And that's on an UNconscious level, too. She doesn't even have to say anything for me to feel it and vice versa. It's unconscious.OP, she went for your confidence and seeming certainty, dont blow it by suddenly being available all the time, but this girl might like romance so do what you want, just don't get too caught up man, **** happens.
First off, again, prepare for the worst and you will actually GET the worst! Prepare for the best and you will GET that as well! Either way, your right because it's your thoughts and actions that lead to results.And if it doesnt and you get married then grats, but dont go in wanting to make this your girl forever, go in hoping for the best, ready for the worst, but impartial to either or and live in the moment. I don't suggest the continued showering of gifts on her as she already knows how you feel and you need to give her time to reciprocate and learn to appreciate you, but again do what you please, just please man, don't get too caught up.
Hmm. I think I misjudged you dude. This is actually true. Basically it's just frame control. It's just that the impression I originally got from you was this pie in the sky,Hollywood love story,pollyana naive view of dating. Going by your reaction to her saying yes to you when you asked her out,it seemed like this was the first time you ever had a date with a girl.CoolGuy64 said:Well here's my take on it. **** happens because you SAY it happens. Your thoughts and actions create your reality. This is precisely why I'm NOT focused on "what is" but what I INTEND them to be.
A+ here man. If you're tense and nervous in the presense of a woman,you hang around her long enough,then she'll start to feel tense and nervous too. If you can't give her anything positive,then just COMPLETELY get out of her presense until you can.CoolGuy64 said:If I'm too tense or too anxious, I stay away from her until I'm relaxed and confident enough to talk to her in a way that'll bring her energy and attraction up a level.
Good as well.CoolGuy64 said:And the truth of the matter is I'm NOT available all the time.
This is good as well,however,what's the deal with this,"as much as I love her" statement? She just accepted a date with you not even two weeks ago,and ALREADY you're talking about love?CoolGuy64 said:So I have a life, too and as much as I love her, I'm not gonna do anything that's against what I believe in for her sake. I need to take care of myself, too. I have my beliefs and I'm sticking to them. If she tries to distract me from them, I will defend myself. Period.
Good advice here. Obviously you've learned some things about women and how to carry yourself around them. It's just that this didn't come across in your first few posts.CoolGuy64 said:First off, again, prepare for the worst and you will actually GET the worst! Prepare for the best and you will GET that as well! Either way, your right because it's your thoughts and actions that lead to results.
Secondly when I'm with her, I'm ALWAYS in the moment. Period. The SECEND I drift away from that, even for 30 seconds, she'll sense that. So, this is the ONE thing I'm super meticulous about.
Focusing on being in the moment....Good.CoolGuy64 said:I'm focused on being in the moment with her. So when she's ready to reciprocate those feelings, and she actually opens up to me and how she feels about me, that's when I'll know its time to get her something really special.
Nope,I wouldn't buy her a thing. I don't care if she does "reciprocate" my feelings towards her. If she buy me something FIRST,ok. If we've been dating for a while,and are in a relationship,and it's her birthday,then ok.CoolGuy64 said:Whether it's writing her a song, or getting her a Swarovsky crystal or something from Tiffany's Jewelers, like a ring or even a stuffed animal of some sort. I don't know, but when the time is right and when SHE reciprocates her feeling to me, that will be the time to decide on a gift to represent our relationship and how great its been.
Damn man! Thank you for that advice! You just gave me a whole new perspective on gifts and the whole reciprocation of feelings.Igetit! said:Hmm. I think I misjudged you dude. This is actually true. Basically it's just frame control. It's just that the impression I originally got from you was this pie in the sky,Hollywood love story,pollyana naive view of dating. Going by your reaction to her saying yes to you when you asked her out,it seemed like this was the first time you ever had a date with a girl.
A+ here man. If you're tense and nervous in the presense of a woman,you hang around her long enough,then she'll start to feel tense and nervous too. If you can't give her anything positive,then just COMPLETELY get out of her presense until you can.
THIS.....I like.
Good as well.
This is good as well,however,what's the deal with this,"as much as I love her" statement? She just accepted a date with you not even two weeks ago,and ALREADY you're talking about love?
Now do you see why you've been getting the responses you've been getting?
Good advice here. Obviously you've learned some things about women and how to carry yourself around them. It's just that this didn't come across in your first few posts.
Focusing on being in the moment....Good.
As far as her reciprocating "those" feelings? In order for her to reciprocate ANYTHING from you,you'd have to give it to her first. Hopefully you already know this,but if you reveal your feelings to her FIRST,you'll probably turn her off. And as far as getting her something special if and when she does reciprocate those feelings,I COMPLETELY DISAGREE with you on this one.
I'm not telling you not to do this,I'm just saying that don't agree with you.
Nope,I wouldn't buy her a thing. I don't care if she does "reciprocate" my feelings towards her. If she buy me something FIRST,ok. If we've been dating for a while,and are in a relationship,and it's her birthday,then ok.
Christmas? Ok.
Valentine's Day? Ok.
Anniversary? Fine.
But imo,if you just start buying her things out of the blue....even if it's AFTER she's reciprocated your feelings,she probably start to misinterpet it as you trying to "buy her",which leads to insecurity/putting her on a pedistal/you know the rest.
Just my opinion.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Randallpink83 said:so wait a minute. this guy was serious?
dude...
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You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Iran. And its interesting you say that because MOST of our Persian friends that we've known since I was a kid got married in like 2 weeks and the funny part is that 20, 30, 40, even 50 YEARS later, they are STILL in love!Barefoot Boy said:In relationships with girls from North Africa, some Asian or Middle Eastern families two young people can 'find' love very quickly.
American women are more jaded and corrupt.
What county are you from Sina?