I can't bring myself to do astrology or palm reading

[The_Reaper]

I consider both of those things inherently retarded and any girl who believes in them simply isn't intelligent enough for me to bother with.

Unfortunately, most girls (most people) are stupid and superstitious.

For quick hook ups and fun, I feel I may be missing out on a great opportunity.

At the same time, I feel that nowadays, with the spread of the pick up artist movement, such things are becoming tainted and appear too obviously player-ish.

Your thoughts?

 

[Exhumed]

Yeah, it doesn't fit my personality so I never bothered learning either, I totally agree.

 

[kokane]

Nope Man. Gimmicks are for cheaters and lesser privilaged people. Come on dude, you know you are better than that.

 

[Ice882]

If you don't like doing it, DON'T DO IT.

Are you actually worrying about what you may be missing out on without palm reading?

That's retarded.

Not to be a d1ck.....but to basically be a d1ck lol.

 

[facadegeniality]

to be honest, i believe more in palm reading than astrology.

u dun have to learn it if you don't want to. Not all girls are into it. but i guess a little knowledge won't hurt.

 

[starplayer]

i remember when i first heard about all the PUA stuff, i thought i'd learn the basics first and that patterning, gimmicks, etc was "advanced" material that i'd learn later. i never got round to learning this "advanced" stuff because although it might work for some people, i realized it's really not necessary at all. if its naturally part of someone's personality - great, use it. but a lot of people try using these techniques while totally ignoring the basics

 

[Gangster Of Love]

I consider both of those things inherently retarded and any girl who believes in them simply isn't intelligent enough for me to bother with.

Unfortunately, most girls (most people) are stupid and superstitious.

For quick hook ups and fun, I feel I may be missing out on a great opportunity.

At the same time, I feel that nowadays, with the spread of the pick up artist movement, such things are becoming tainted and appear too obviously player-ish.

Your thoughts?

You, myself, at whatever stage, and every AFC that is starting here, want the results, but whithout having to learn anything new. The whole "they should want me for what I am". Well, unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. And you know that. That is why we are here, to learn how to attract women who should be attracted to us even if we didn't have the skill set one learns on sites like this.

Name me ONE single woman who doesn't want/like to talk about herself. Name me one person, period, who's favorite topic is not themselves. You get the point.

When you say:
"I consider both of those things inherently retarded and any girl who believes in them simply isn't intelligent enough for me to bother with."

You might want to look for a different type of live being to date.

Now it is not a matter of wether they believe it, it is a matter of wheter they think it is fun and interesting. Most of us don't believe in retarded Hollywod scripts of superheroes and superpowers, yet, it is a multi billion dollar industry. People enjoy it, as entertainment and fun.

Your statement is comparable, if you think about it, to the nerd who says, "Any woman who doesn't appreciate a book smart nerd like me is retarded and I am not interested."

"any woman who likes a guy in shape is not worthy of my time."

"Any woman who won't accept my sloppy hygiene is not worth dating."

Etc. etc.

When fishing, you don't just attach and throw anything on that hook. While it might not be your or my favorite thing to snack on, fish love those worms. So we use them to attract them.

Women might be thinking similarly, "Any guy who thinks he can communicate in a way that doesn't interest me or appeal to me, is just retarded and not worth dating.", and yes, that is what happens when women talk to all these boring, uninteresting guys who go talk to them.

Yes, anybody who thinks they can learn a few "gimmicks" and get results based on that, will fail. Yet, combined with solid game, you will be amazed at the results. Find something you do enjoy. I personally don't like to use Astrology, but have similar "Specialized Skills" that I enjoy, and women just love, so I use them to supplement my already descent game. Works fine for me.

 

[DJDamage]

I consider both of those things inherently retarded and any girl who believes in them simply isn't intelligent enough for me to bother with.

Unfortunately, most girls (most people) are stupid and superstitious.

For quick hook ups and fun, I feel I may be missing out on a great opportunity.

The oppprtunity you are missing is not using that to your advantage.

So what if you think they are stupid?! if a hot chick you fancy is interested stupid made belief sh1t like astrology, palm reading, hocus pocus or the secret, let her enjoy it and agree with her while secretly not give a damn.

If a chick likes to gaze in the stars because she thinks it brings her some cosmic purpose into her life, then all I got to do is set up a date on a clear nightly sky where she gets to watch the stars and I get to watch and suck her t1ts.

Many girls deep down resent the fact that most men like to watch sports or talk about cars but if they like the guy so they just put up with it because in the end they are getting something out of it too.

 

[Scars]

It doesn't seem like a gimmick unless you put it off that way. I actually use astrology quite a lot in my game, but then again I actually believe in it. Call me a fool, but it actually goes quite in depth, and a lot further than just your sun sign. I usually start off by asking for their birthday. Example: "November 17th"
"Oh, so you're a Scorpio" I'd say. (Just casually slipping into it..) "That explains a lot." "How so?" "Oh, nothing." kind of toying with them for a bit. Make them beg for it. Then eventually give them a short reading. I've found that this is one of the quickest ways to build rapport. It makes the girl trust you. Makes her feel like she's known you forever. These talks sometimes branch off into other things, you really get to know a lot of about these girls. You have these deep conversations with them, then 20 mins later you are fvcking them. Sh!t works wonders. I especially love it when the topic of love and relationships come up. The girl will try so hard to not make herself look like a wh0re.