The_Reaper said:
I consider both of those things inherently retarded and any girl who believes in them simply isn't intelligent enough for me to bother with.
Unfortunately, most girls (most people) are stupid and superstitious.
For quick hook ups and fun, I feel I may be missing out on a great opportunity.
At the same time, I feel that nowadays, with the spread of the pick up artist movement, such things are becoming tainted and appear too obviously player-ish.
Your thoughts?
You, myself, at whatever stage, and every AFC that is starting here, want the results, but whithout having to learn anything new. The whole "they should want me for what I am". Well, unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. And you know that. That is why we are here, to learn how to attract women who should be attracted to us even if we didn't have the skill set one learns on sites like this.
Name me ONE single woman who doesn't want/like to talk about herself. Name me one person, period, who's favorite topic is not themselves. You get the point.
When you say:
"I consider both of those things inherently retarded and any girl who believes in them simply isn't intelligent enough for me to bother with."
You might want to look for a different type of live being to date.
Now it is not a matter of wether they believe it, it is a matter of wheter they think it is fun and interesting. Most of us don't believe in retarded Hollywod scripts of superheroes and superpowers, yet, it is a multi billion dollar industry. People enjoy it, as entertainment and fun.
Your statement is comparable, if you think about it, to the nerd who says, "Any woman who doesn't appreciate a book smart nerd like me is retarded and I am not interested."
"any woman who likes a guy in shape is not worthy of my time."
"Any woman who won't accept my sloppy hygiene is not worth dating."
Etc. etc.
When fishing, you don't just attach and throw anything on that hook. While it might not be your or my favorite thing to snack on, fish love those worms. So we use them to attract them.
Women might be thinking similarly, "Any guy who thinks he can communicate in a way that doesn't interest me or appeal to me, is just retarded and not worth dating.", and yes, that is what happens when women talk to all these boring, uninteresting guys who go talk to them.
Yes, anybody who thinks they can learn a few "gimmicks" and get results based on that, will fail. Yet, combined with solid game, you will be amazed at the results. Find something you do enjoy. I personally don't like to use Astrology, but have similar "Specialized Skills" that I enjoy, and women just love, so I use them to supplement my already descent game. Works fine for me.