“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I am tired of blackpillers and anti-self improvement guys on here

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Let em go black pill and mgtow. As long as they're not spraying bullets from an AR 15 I don't care. Be miserable and hate womyn if you want. If you're not getting better you're gettin worse, thas just a fact.

I'm out there walking the walk. Number closes mean nothing anymore, half the time i don't contact. Fukks come and go. I've got my money to grow and shyt to do. Approaches aren't even approaches, just me living and flowing.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I think the purpose of the blackpill is to focus on looks, so the value of it is the worthwhile looksmaxxing advice and advice on what to do if women find you unattractive looking.

PUAs already exist to focus on game

The red pill mostly focuses on money, status and masculinity.

But I'd say looks are just as important as money, status and game and it needs to be focused on too.

I dislike the doomer blackpill stuff where it's all hate and negativity and ****ting on everything. But I dislike the red pill guys who are all about ****ting on women and men and dating too.
 

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This forum is becoming more and more blackpill. People are using the terms normie, chadlite, and chad seriously. I sense a large amount of apathy and disillusionment in the people who use these terms. They feel that they are confined to a certain league, defined by their looks, and are condemned to stay there. Approaching becomes pointless because no girls will respond.

This mentality was not in the PUA community in its heyday. When you read Roosh, Strauss, and especially Pook, you feel excited. You hear cool stories and you get pumped to try the tactics yourself. You may have once sucked with women, but writers like those above give you a spark to take action and approach. They remind you that you will fail, but that eventually — sometime — you will succeed.
You're correct.
But you must also remember that it was different times the boomers and GenX still consisted of strong men that got a proper upbringing which set the tone back then in the 90'tes and early 2000'nds.

The generations today consists of a lot of weak men that all they know is to complain and whine as they are snowflakes and been told that they are "so special" all to find out later that life is harder and more complex than they were told and hence they moan and complain.

So they come here on SS and look for the miracle cure and highway to get girls, only to find out that it isn't like that here either... and then we get the end product which you mention... = low/er quality content on SS.

Also back then we did not have all the bat sheit crazy leftist, feminist, #metoo, LGBT movements, political correctness which influence negatively on the pua scene. You could get away with a lot of stuff back then, but today bitches will call you out for bs toxic masculinity, misogynist and all the bs that comes along with it. so that doesn't make things better. On top of that we have the social media and everybody "Ms nobody" and "Mr nobody" has voice through their smartphones and all the narcissisms that comes along with that, dating apps etc. etc.

Times have changed and will not go back to how it was probably for or long time, if ever.,
 

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You're correct.
But you must also remember that it was different times the boomers and GenX still consisted of strong men that got a proper upbringing which set the tone back then in the 90'tes and early 2000'nds.

The generations today consists of a lot of weak men that all they know is to complain and whine as they are snowflakes and been told that they are "so special" all to find out later that life is harder and more complex than they were told and hence they moan and complain.

So they come here on SS and look for the miracle cure and highway to get girls, only to find out that it isn't like that here either... and then we get the end product which you mention... = low/er quality content on SS.

Also back then we did not have all the bat sheit crazy leftist, feminist, #metoo, LGBT movements, political correctness which influence negatively on the pua scene. You could get away with a lot of stuff back then, but today bitches will call you out for bs toxic masculinity, misogynist and all the bs that comes along with it. so that doesn't make things better. On top of that we have the social media and everybody "Ms nobody" and "Mr nobody" has voice through their smartphones and all the narcissisms that comes along with that, dating apps etc. etc.

Times have changed and will not go back to how it was probably for or long time, if ever.,
A lot of young guys are afraid to do anything as result of this. The me2 movement and all the girl who cried wolf shenanigans brought on more pressures for young guys. I'm not surprised many have given up all together. I don't agree with it at all, but understand it.
 

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A lot of young guys are afraid to do anything as result of this. The me2 movement and all the girl who cried wolf shenanigans brought on more pressures for young guys. I'm not surprised many have given up all together. I don't agree with it at all, but understand it.
Yeah they’ve heard all this stuff in the MSM and on SJW social media sites and are scared. I’m sure you’ve seen the collective hating that evil “woman harassers” get on reddit when this stuff goes too public. That amplifies their fears and gives them a justification not to approach.

The whole MeTwo thing really fvcked things up. But the reality is that you have basically zero chance of getting reported for “harassment” — even on a college campus — if you look decent. If you look like sh1t, you are an evil “woman harasser” and creep. If you look average, you are a minor nuisance, a story for the girls. If you look great, you may just be the guy to sweep her away.

I’ve never been called a harasser or got a strongly negative reaction from approaching. But one thing I don’t do is go direct during the day. I try to go slow to prevent any possible repercussions. At this point, after doing it for so long, it really doesn’t factor into my mind. If you got some muscle you’ll be good approaching — not saying you’ll won’t be rejected time after time, but nobody will be reporting you for an incident. You gotta be able to read the girl and situation, knowing when she’s not interested. At that point, just excuse yourself, as you can never force anything.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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The reality is that you have basically zero chance of getting reported for “harassment” — even on a college campus — if you look decent. If you look like sh1t, you are an evil “woman harasser” and creep. If you look average, you are a minor nuisance, a story for the girls. If you look great, you may just be the guy to sweep her away.
You say you hate the blackpill stuff, but this is exactly what a lot of them are saying.
That your looks determine your success with cold approach
As you say, handsome =sweep her away, average = minor nuisance, ugly = reported for harassment haha
 

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You say you hate the blackpill stuff, but this is exactly what a lot of them are saying.
That your looks determine your success with cold approach
As you say, handsome =sweep her away, average = minor nuisance, ugly = reported for harassment haha
Not necessarily. This is anecdotal but

I've had my run ins with title 9 based off a false report from a girl. She was poly and wanted to hook up with me and told me this over a school zoom call during covid. I rejected her offer and she then later reported me for sexual harassment, it fell on deaf ears as I had a paper trail of her shenanigans. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned

At my bartending job a server continually came onto me and grabbed my schlong through my pants. Told her I didn't appreciate it and the dishwasher saw it happen. Next day she doesn't come to work and when called claims myself and our head Chef sexually harassed her.

These were women that came on to me and took the power they held over men to full advantage. Even If a girl is into your looks if you do something she doesn't like or gets the 'ick' it doesn't matter it can still go south fast. Does it happen less with a good looking dude? For sure.

Young guys should be at least observant of this cancel like power chicks hold in today's world, it is real and happens frequently in college settings now

Looks 100% matter, but blackpill reasoning places everything on looks above all else.
 

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At my bartending job a server continually came onto me and grabbed my schlong through my pants. Told her I didn't appreciate it and the dishwasher saw it happen. Next day she doesn't come to work and when called claims myself and our head Chef sexually harassed her
That is just a crazy story brother. So she gets rejected and next day she runs to the your F&B manager and claims you had sexually harassed her as a revenge for the non interest from your side. Wow.. You cannot make sheite like that up... :oops:

So did your boss see through the bullcr@ap and warned her/fired her for it or?
 

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Let me clarify: In my opinion, Sosuave is for men wanting to date hot single fertile girls under 30. If the woman is 30+, fat, ugly, or single mother, a man should not need Sosuave. Anything can be discussed here (saving politics), but a man should not “need” advice here for a woman with any or all of those conditions.

Ive never seen threads saying “the woman is 41, single mother of 2 boys, losing her looks and bit overweight. She hasn’t responded to my text in 24 hours.” Why? Because a man instinctively knows what to do in that situation.

Its more “The girl is 24 and is confused about our relationship” or “the girl is 27 and doesn’t feel like having sex”. When the girl is young, and hot, and fertile, the man gets a little more nervous there.

My thoughts only.
Actually there are many posts regarding older women over the years here at SS. Especially from some of the classic guys like biggoal. Now, everyone wants an 18-29 year old, but this is a forum to discuss women of all ages. Women in their 30s and 40s are still going to be relevant on here.
 

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That is just a crazy story brother. So she gets rejected and next day she runs to the your F&B manager and claims you had sexually harassed her as a revenge for the non interest from your side. Wow.. You cannot make sheite like that up... :oops:

So did your boss see through the bullcr@ap and warned her/fired her for it or?
More or less. There is more detail to that story and others, but yes my gm saw through it as I worked closely beside him at this job and was a long time employee. This was a gig where basically everyone was trying to funk everyone (country clubs), but this girl was a no go for reasons. She wasn't fired per say, just didn't show up again.
 

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But the reality is that you have basically zero chance of getting reported for “harassment” — even on a college campus — if you look decent. If you look like sh1t, you are an evil “woman harasser” and creep. If you look average, you are a minor nuisance, a story for the girls. If you look great, you may just be the guy to sweep her away.

I’ve never been called a harasser or got a strongly negative reaction from approaching. But one thing I don’t do is go direct during the day. I try to go slow to prevent any possible repercussions. At this point, after doing it for so long, it really doesn’t factor into my mind. If you got some muscle you’ll be good approaching — not saying you’ll won’t be rejected time after time, but nobody will be reporting you for an incident. You gotta be able to read the girl and situation, knowing when she’s not interested. At that point, just excuse yourself, as you can never force anything.
I've never been reported for harassment. I've never caught the attention of retail store managers or mall security. For the women that rejected me on a daytime cold approach, I've likely been a minor nuisance that they forgot about within 48 hours.

My style is closer to indirect than direct. Outdoor approaching can be more direct. Indoor retail is better off indirect as women have the option of alerting mall security or a store manager.

Social skill and at least average looks are usually good enough to avoid getting reported.

you must also remember that it was different times the boomers and GenX still consisted of strong men that got a proper upbringing which set the tone back then in the 90'tes and early 2000'nds.

The generations today consists of a lot of weak men that all they know is to complain and whine as they are snowflakes and been told that they are "so special" all to find out later that life is harder and more complex than they were told and hence they moan and complain.

So they come here on SS and look for the miracle cure and highway to get girls, only to find out that it isn't like that here either... and then we get the end product which you mention... = low/er quality content on SS.

Also back then we did not have all the bat sheit crazy leftist, feminist, #metoo, LGBT movements, political correctness which influence negatively on the pua scene. You could get away with a lot of stuff back then, but today bitches will call you out for bs toxic masculinity, misogynist and all the bs that comes along with it. so that doesn't make things better. On top of that we have the social media and everybody "Ms nobody" and "Mr nobody" has voice through their smartphones and all the narcissisms that comes along with that, dating apps etc. etc.
This is a great comparison of Boomers and Gen X'ers to Millennials and the up and coming Gen Z group. The black pill/MGTOW/incel all took off with the Millennial generation and will persist into Gen Z.
 

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Ive never seen threads saying “the woman is 41, single mother of 2 boys, losing her looks and bit overweight. She hasn’t responded to my text in 24 hours.” Why? Because a man instinctively knows what to do in that situation.
I'm actually pretty sure I've seen that exact thread before.
 

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Well, that was an interesting read.
 

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Depressed people is a given. The point of a revolving door of newcomers is that we are giving them treatment with each case. Let them come in blackpilled or whatever. That's the point. We're suppose to wake them up.
 

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Now, everyone wants an 18-29 year old, but this is a forum to discuss women of all ages. Women in their 30s and 40s are still going to be relevant on here.
How can any guy who looks decent / has money not know what to do with a 40+ year old women? How does a 40 year old woman have any leverage?

Now I can’t get 18 year olds but come on, 40+ women? My guy friend has more leverage than her.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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How can any guy who looks decent / has money not know what to do with a 40+ year old women? How does a 40 year old woman have any leverage?

Now I can’t get 18 year olds but come on, 40+ women? My guy friend has more leverage than her.
A very good looking 45 year old woman still has a lot of options. And on average, she is going to have a lot more options than an average looking guy of the same age - especially with older men than her. And some guys are so blue-pilled and clueless that they still don't know what they're doing even in their 40s. I am not sure why I am having to explain this to a guy who has been here for 3 years.

You have seen the type of posters that come through here in the past not knowing what to do. There isn't anything inherently wrong with them - they have just been brainwashed by society and need to be given the red pill to wake up.
 

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A very good looking 45 year old woman still has a lot of options. And on average, she is going to have a lot more options than an average looking guy of the same age - especially with older men than her. And some guys are so blue-pilled and clueless that they still don't know what they're doing even in their 40s. I am not sure why I am having to explain this to a guy who has been here for 3 years.
Agree. The wall is softer than we think. A lot of 55-65 year old men will be interested in a 45 year old woman, especially one who has children 18+ who are independent or is childless (rarer).
 

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Black pillers are entitled like the women they complain about
I remember arguing with a 23 year old incel who was trying to tell me about women and female nature
mind you he was a virgin and never had a girlfriend but the kid was trying to tell about women like he was some guru
The audacity and delusion.
 

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This forum is becoming more and more blackpill. People are using the terms normie, chadlite, and chad seriously. I sense a large amount of apathy and disillusionment in the people who use these terms. They feel that they are confined to a certain league, defined by their looks, and are condemned to stay there. Approaching becomes pointless because no girls will respond.

This mentality was not in the PUA community in its heyday. When you read Roosh, Strauss, and especially Pook, you feel excited. You hear cool stories and you get pumped to try the tactics yourself. You may have once sucked with women, but writers like those above give you a spark to take action and approach. They remind you that you will fail, but that eventually — sometime — you will succeed.

It is from this inspiration that I began my PUA journey. I was excited — though very nervous — to learn how to get girls. These guys told me how to approach. They gave me a plan for action. I came into college and started applying. I failed a ton, and didn’t work up enough confidence to approach time after time, but I had a goal in my mind so I kept going.

These OG PUA guys weren’t against improving your looks. No, not at all. Pook’s article on gaining muscle mass inspired me to lift:

But they didn’t tell me that I couldn’t approach if I didn’t have X muscles, Y veins, and Z height. There were no thresholds, no requirements. I just had to put the work in and eventually I would succeed. Yes, I had to improve myself as a man, but that was what I should be doing for myself anyways. I didn’t have to rate myself out of 10 every time I go out to “match” myself with an equal rating girl. Who wants to do that?

The above PUA authors helped me out greatly. I am having a blast at my college. I have two plates I bang every week now and not a year ago I hadn’t even kissed a girl. I’ve gained a good 40 pounds of muscle mass and can now bench 300 lbs max.

One of my biggest inspirations was these PUA guys, especially Pook. They have an excitement in their writing that makes you want to emulate them. It gives you a drive to see other guys’ success. You want to be like them. So you set to work, improve yourself and overcome your fears.

I just don’t see this enthusiastic mindset here much. There is much more complaining about the state of women in general, with the subtext being they are not even worth approaching anymore. Nothing is worth it, so the mentality goes.

Screw that. I don’t like this blackpill trend. Literally 99/100 guys aren’t approaching at all. They have no idea what their potential is. They don’t even know how to talk to girls, because they haven’t. I want these men to find sparks of inspiration, not endless moaning and groaning.

I tell some of my college friends my adventures with women, and they’re always amazed. Not many people do this stuff — and other guys think it’s pretty inspiring and cool. Why drive them off by being blackpill and against any sort of improvement? Instead drive them forward, to greener pastures!

I hope this blackpill trend changes and we can inspire more men through this forum.
I have made a similiar thread when I first came here after just reading old posts and discovering what are posts like now,but it's not that terrible, I think looks are more focused on but that is completely reasonable and good if from positivw perspective of reaching ur best self and not to meet some requirements, still there are for sure some advice and discussion which reeks of insecurity and no self acceptance, but so happens and will continue, still many good advice around here just have to filter bad ones out
 
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