I am involuntary celibate

[MatureDJ]

Not to mention those leathery granny faces and oh so much sagging.

Like this then 47 year old?

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

This got me thinking... If the dating market is worse than it's ever been. And girls these days are treating sex like handshaking. Coupled with the fact that once in early to mid thirties, females start losing those options; would it stand to reason that a 25 year old might have a higher body count than a 40 year old? Not that it would affect the smv ratios between the two that much as tighter and less jaded = higher value.

losing what options? Older women are still sleeping around with older men.

 

[corrector]

You know what maybe you’ve had a point all along. I should stop chasing women or a demon will possess me. Maybe I should go on forums I have no business being on instead.

You are comparing chasing real women to visiting a prostitute? That's apples and oranges. I only mentioned I don't want to visit prostitutes because a demon might possess me. Now, if were an escort site I'd see your point. But you see the problem I have my critics is that they have nothing to say when it comes to @Atom Smasher, or other Christian leaning posters who don't think you have to be an animal to be a successful DJ. It seems like its easy to pick on low hanging fruit because of my own honesty about my situation.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I know it’s controversial: get on Tinder. Use it as an adjunct to IRL. As for IRL: go out.

 

[Lookatu]

OP, you have a few good suggestions here.

But YOU have to be willing to put in the EFFORT and determine if the juice is worth the squeeze on your investment. However in my opinion, just doing the above suggested improvements will help you in all aspects in life(socializing, job, friends, opportunities, etc) which should be seen as the main benefit, with women coming in second. Do it for you first and foremost.

Also balance out the improvements(internal, confidence, personality, game, physique, career, etc).

As suggested, practice on the low hanging fruit and work your way up as you gain confidence and experience. This will do wonders for your ego once you've had a taste for success. It will definitely boost your confidence and hence your overall aura about yourself to others. My $.02

 

[Heathcliff]

Thanks for all the help, guys. Ive read a lot of books, from the usual suspects. Now it is time to put in the work.

To answer the questions: I have a dead end 20th century job, making 40000 dollars a year in satellite TV. I plan to transition to a much better career in computers. I live in a very bad fixer upper house near Ohio State University(good neighborhood though). I have no roommates. I drive a Corolla with over 200000 miles. Like Richard Cooper, my hair is thinning so I am shaving my head for the time being.

Here is my plan. In the movie 40 year old Virgin, Seth Rogen recommends banging a bunch of hoodrats. Im gonna start small and work my way up I guess. Ill make approaches to ANY woman I see, even if I am not attracted to them, and just talk, and learn from them. Ill record these approaches and post em here so you can evaluate things like what I say, how I say it, her body language, etc. ThisisSparta made some good advice; start with low hanging fruit and work my way up. Ill start with 30 somethings.

 

[RickTheToad]

Thanks for all the help, guys. Ive read a lot of books, from the usual suspects. Now it is time to put in the work.

To answer the questions: I have a dead end 20th century job, making 40000 dollars a year in satellite TV. I plan to transition to a much better career in computers. I live in a very bad fixer upper house near Ohio State University(good neighborhood though). I have no roommates. I drive a Corolla with over 200000 miles. Like Richard Cooper, my hair is thinning so I am shaving my head for the time being.

Here is my plan. In the movie 40 year old Virgin, Seth Rogen recommends banging a bunch of hoodrats. Im gonna start small and work my way up I guess. Ill make approaches to ANY woman I see, even if I am not attracted to them, and just talk, and learn from them. Ill record these approaches and post em here so you can evaluate things like what I say, how I say it, her body language, etc. ThisisSparta made some good advice; start with low hanging fruit and work my way up. Ill start with 30 somethings.

I think you should work on your self esteem and not go dumpster diving. You will end up catching or hatching something you do not want. You like Rich Cooper eh? Ok, then as he says, DO THE WORK.

 

[Robert28]

losing what options? Older women are still sleeping around with older men.

Yep. Mid-30’s hags have more options than guys in their 20’s. It’s sad really.

 

[AttackFormation]

Yep. Mid-30’s hags have more options than guys in their 20’s. It’s sad really.

lol, mid 30s hags? that's the minor leagues. Fact is even the "pig woman" tinder experiment had far better options than a relatively attractive man did.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Thanks for all the help, guys. Ive read a lot of books, from the usual suspects. Now it is time to put in the work.

To answer the questions: I have a dead end 20th century job, making 40000 dollars a year in satellite TV. I plan to transition to a much better career in computers. I live in a very bad fixer upper house near Ohio State University(good neighborhood though). I have no roommates. I drive a Corolla with over 200000 miles. Like Richard Cooper, my hair is thinning so I am shaving my head for the time being.

Here is my plan. In the movie 40 year old Virgin, Seth Rogen recommends banging a bunch of hoodrats. Im gonna start small and work my way up I guess. Ill make approaches to ANY woman I see, even if I am not attracted to them, and just talk, and learn from them. Ill record these approaches and post em here so you can evaluate things like what I say, how I say it, her body language, etc. ThisisSparta made some good advice; start with low hanging fruit and work my way up. Ill start with 30 somethings.

Work your way up to what?

Why assume there's some magical female at the end of the tunnel?

Females are overvalued by society.