"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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i always get this respone ... "can i bring my ______ with me ?"

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im just curious... whenever i tried to ask a girl to go out with me for the first time... this patterns always shows up almost everytime

"can i bring my ____ with me"
"anyone else coming with us?"
"im not used in this kinda things... can i bring my bff`s ??"




any solution on this kind of things? , seems something is wrong why i always get this kinda response from woman i try to ask.... one pattern i thought of is theyre somewhat my friends , workmates , which is somewhat close to me? is this a clue that im in their friendzone barrier??
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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How are you asking them out?
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last one with my workmate... "hey , payday this friday right? wanna go to "banchetto"<a restaurant near our place> , they said the food there is really good..."

something along those lines...
 
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How are you asking them out?
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That's what I was thinking......how was he asking them out,and more importantly.....WHO was he asking out.


Is it girls he doesn't know,like a cold approach,or someone he's already known for a while.

If it's someone he's known for a while,it could be a possible friendzone thing,they definately don't want anything romantic/sexual happening on the date,and are trying to invite a friend along to MAKE SURE nothing happens.


If it's a new girl....someone he doesn't yet know,it's a lack of COMFORT.

You rushed the pickup,went from "hi" to asking her out too fast. Thing is though,most new girls don't say that when guys ask them out.


Once you say which one it is,a new girl or an aquaintance,then it'll be easier to help advise you.
 
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Igetit! said:
That's what I was thinking......how was he asking them out,and more importantly.....WHO was he asking out.


Is it girls he doesn't know,like a cold approach,or someone he's already known for a while.

If it's someone he's known for a while,it could be a possible friendzone thing,they definately don't want anything romantic/sexual happening on the date,and are trying to invite a friend along to MAKE SURE nothing happens.


If it's a new girl....someone he doesn't yet know,it's a lack of COMFORT.

You rushed the pickup,went from "hi" to asking her out too fast. Thing is though,most new girls don't say that when guys ask them out.


Once you say which one it is,a new girl or an aquaintance,then it'll be easier to help advise you.
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its a workmate of mine... 1 is my close friend... another one i met online
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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its a workmate of mine... 1 is my close friend... another one i met online
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Igetit! nailed it. Nothing you can do with the close friend. For the online chick, just give her a call and have a normal conversation with her. Towards the end - Hey ever been to Make-out Plaza? No? I'm free Thursday and Saturday we should go!
 
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Every girl who said that to me wasnt that interested. Especially not on the first date / meet up. Those that were wanted just 1 on 1 time. The former always wanted to be just friends. The latter would keep their phone in their hand and keep tabs in case they needed help / I was a homicidal maniac. But it was still just us 2, on an actual date. The others just wanted to hang out with me and their friends. Like, going to a party or bowling alley. They'd also say things like "lols i want my bff dawny to *** just friends lol for sure". Garbage ass ho's.
 
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You're getting this pattern because these girls aren't comfortable or they're otherwise just not that into you.

Case closed. Reality bites.
 
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Bringing friends is a girl's passive-aggressive BS way of telling you she's not interested while stringing you along as a gay best friend.

Get the message and drop them if they do that. Then move on to the next girl that wants you all to herself.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I had that happen. She wouldn't meet me without my friend. When I told him he said, "What the phuck would I want to be there for!?!" That confirmed her interest and/or comfort was low, low, low. Next!

Just pass, and go for what you want, a 1 on 1, a real date, not a free pass to be one of the girls. Phuck that.
 
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