"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

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i always get this respone ... "can i bring my ______ with me ?"

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im just curious... whenever i tried to ask a girl to go out with me for the first time... this patterns always shows up almost everytime

"can i bring my ____ with me"
"anyone else coming with us?"
"im not used in this kinda things... can i bring my bff`s ??"




any solution on this kind of things? , seems something is wrong why i always get this kinda response from woman i try to ask.... one pattern i thought of is theyre somewhat my friends , workmates , which is somewhat close to me? is this a clue that im in their friendzone barrier??
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How are you asking them out?
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last one with my workmate... "hey , payday this friday right? wanna go to "banchetto"<a restaurant near our place> , they said the food there is really good..."

something along those lines...
 
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How are you asking them out?
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That's what I was thinking......how was he asking them out,and more importantly.....WHO was he asking out.


Is it girls he doesn't know,like a cold approach,or someone he's already known for a while.

If it's someone he's known for a while,it could be a possible friendzone thing,they definately don't want anything romantic/sexual happening on the date,and are trying to invite a friend along to MAKE SURE nothing happens.


If it's a new girl....someone he doesn't yet know,it's a lack of COMFORT.

You rushed the pickup,went from "hi" to asking her out too fast. Thing is though,most new girls don't say that when guys ask them out.


Once you say which one it is,a new girl or an aquaintance,then it'll be easier to help advise you.
 
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Igetit! said:
That's what I was thinking......how was he asking them out,and more importantly.....WHO was he asking out.


Is it girls he doesn't know,like a cold approach,or someone he's already known for a while.

If it's someone he's known for a while,it could be a possible friendzone thing,they definately don't want anything romantic/sexual happening on the date,and are trying to invite a friend along to MAKE SURE nothing happens.


If it's a new girl....someone he doesn't yet know,it's a lack of COMFORT.

You rushed the pickup,went from "hi" to asking her out too fast. Thing is though,most new girls don't say that when guys ask them out.


Once you say which one it is,a new girl or an aquaintance,then it'll be easier to help advise you.
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its a workmate of mine... 1 is my close friend... another one i met online
 

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When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

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its a workmate of mine... 1 is my close friend... another one i met online
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Igetit! nailed it. Nothing you can do with the close friend. For the online chick, just give her a call and have a normal conversation with her. Towards the end - Hey ever been to Make-out Plaza? No? I'm free Thursday and Saturday we should go!
 
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Every girl who said that to me wasnt that interested. Especially not on the first date / meet up. Those that were wanted just 1 on 1 time. The former always wanted to be just friends. The latter would keep their phone in their hand and keep tabs in case they needed help / I was a homicidal maniac. But it was still just us 2, on an actual date. The others just wanted to hang out with me and their friends. Like, going to a party or bowling alley. They'd also say things like "lols i want my bff dawny to *** just friends lol for sure". Garbage ass ho's.
 
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You're getting this pattern because these girls aren't comfortable or they're otherwise just not that into you.

Case closed. Reality bites.
 
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Bringing friends is a girl's passive-aggressive BS way of telling you she's not interested while stringing you along as a gay best friend.

Get the message and drop them if they do that. Then move on to the next girl that wants you all to herself.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I had that happen. She wouldn't meet me without my friend. When I told him he said, "What the phuck would I want to be there for!?!" That confirmed her interest and/or comfort was low, low, low. Next!

Just pass, and go for what you want, a 1 on 1, a real date, not a free pass to be one of the girls. Phuck that.
 
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