I’m a “brown” guy in Europe and I only get foreign girls

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I dunno the Ottoman Empire was pretty formidable, the shame is most people don't know their history:

The Ottoman Empire lasted for approximately 600 years, from 1299 to 1922. It began as a small Turkish principality in Anatolia under the leadership of Osman I and gradually expanded to become one of the world's largest empires, spanning three continents at its height.

Anyone who knows anything about history knows, and if you don't the information is easily accessible for those looking to expand their minds. (remember women LOVE a worldy and well informed man).

Under the Ottoman Empire, several aspects of culture, science, and society flourished, contributing to a rich and diverse legacy. Here are some key areas that experienced significant development and flourishing during various periods of Ottoman rule:

1. **Art and Architecture**: Ottoman architecture blended elements of Byzantine, Persian, and Islamic styles, resulting in iconic structures like the Sultan Ahmed Mosque (Blue Mosque) and the Süleymaniye Mosque in Istanbul. The empire also promoted decorative arts such as ceramics, calligraphy, and miniature painting.

2. **Literature and Language**: Ottoman Turkish literature thrived, producing renowned poets like Fuzuli and Nazım Hikmet. The Ottoman court was a patron of literature, supporting the development of literary forms such as divan poetry and historical chronicles.

3. **Science and Medicine**: The Ottomans preserved and expanded upon scientific knowledge inherited from earlier civilizations. They made contributions in astronomy, mathematics, and medicine, including advancements in pharmacology and surgical techniques.

4. **Education and Scholarship**: The establishment of madrasas (Islamic schools) and libraries promoted scholarship and intellectual exchange. The Ottomans maintained a rich tradition of learning, translating classical works into Ottoman Turkish and promoting the study of Islamic sciences.

5. **Trade and Commerce**: The Ottoman Empire controlled major trade routes between Europe, Asia, and Africa, facilitating trade and cultural exchange. This economic prosperity supported urbanization and the growth of commercial centers like Istanbul, Bursa, and Aleppo.

6. **Religious and Cultural Diversity**: The Ottomans governed a diverse population that included Muslims, Christians, Jews, and others. They practiced religious tolerance, allowing communities to maintain their own customs and institutions, which contributed to a vibrant cultural mosaic.

7. **Military and Strategic Innovations**: The Ottomans were known for their military prowess and strategic innovations, including effective use of artillery, Janissary infantry units, and naval power. These advancements enabled the empire to expand and defend its territories.

Overall, the Ottoman Empire's cultural, scientific, and societal achievements left a lasting impact on the regions it once controlled, influencing art, architecture, literature, and intellectual pursuits for centuries.
 

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I have a Arab background I get Dutch, blonde and redhead women all the time. Tho I dated Moroccans Indonesians etc also. It doesn’t matter
 

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Hi Beibars,
Since when is a Turk a "Brown Guy"?....Most are pretty much,the same as the Anglos I mix with,I would say if you are into this ridiculous identity game then Australians are Brown?
Yes, I don’t have a really brown skin. I look southern European but people still notice the difference.
I don’t feel foreign since I was born here and that’s my home, of course I still feel connected to my country of origin. I’m not someone that is denying his origins.
I’m just sharing my experiences and there is definitely a difference because I can get girls with foreign roots like me or girls that immigrated to Germany but the native German ones are not into me. There are only exceptions, some girls that are into guys like me but those are rare and most times not really quality girls
 

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TBH fvck white girls entirely and just go for Turkish girls. I can understand black guys butting their heads for white women, but I will never understand why yall Asian and Latin bros ignore your beautiful women to knock your heads with fat or escort level body count white women. Trust me, you are completely better off avoiding them entirely! Yes, you can go have flings with some vagabond barista white girl, but you will always be that toy to her. You have full access to one of the most beautiful ethnic girls in the world, capitalize on that shvt. Wake the fvck up bro lol.

Plus, I am assuming you are Muslim and don't eat pork? Pork is like a main ingredient in European especially German cuisine so why would any sane German girl give up pork? The only ones that will are your crazy tatted vagabond barista type white girls which are bottom feeder quality imho.
 
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Hi Beibars,
You may be interested,that a couple of years ago whilst travelling in Western China,I was in Urumci where the Turkish Prime Minister had not long visited.....Locals told me that he spoke publicly in Turkish and the locals understood him...the Turkic conquerors were a Mongol race...Don't worry about the local Girls,as Churchill said,they are like their Dogs,either at your feet or at your throat!
 

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It's all about framing, the pedestal has manifested beneath their dirty stinky feet because you've built it up just so in your mind, it's silly and you know it's silly; men don't have preferences, we have opportunities and through those opportunities we develop a preference, if you've never had it how you could authentically prefer it over anything else.

Your looking for the social proof of having a white woman attached to you, understanding that will make that far more attainable than you simply chasing after the first national that gives you a wink of attention which is what will end up happening
 

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I am in the EU right now, visiting, and notice that a lot of Middle Eastern and Arab guys have an insecurity about their race and try to pass as "Italian". TBH, this leads them to do even worse with women because women can subconsciously pick up on the insecurity. I have met some Arab dudes who think being Arab = GOAT and women love their swagger, they are more like a French Montana type of dude.

IMO, with race, some of it is in your head but yeah, some of it is outside of there.

The advice I would give to any guy that thinks their race is low value in a given area, if that is the case, is this.

1. Max out your looks and style. Be more like Sami Kheidera as an Arab guy than some Taxi driver or broke refugee.

2. Spend time on girls that are inclined to go more for a guy like you from your experience.

3. Spend less time on girls that are not into guys like you.

It is that simple. Oh and most of all.

Stop seeking validation from whites.

Stop trying to pass as "Italian" and stop trying to win over white guys. Most white dudes these days are miserable themselves and borderline incels so they have no intention of helping others. Just focus on maximizing your value and giving it to the world.
 

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Stop seeking validation from whites.

Stop trying to pass as "Italian" and stop trying to win over white guys. Most white dudes these days are miserable themselves and borderline incels so they have no intention of helping others. Just focus on maximizing your value and giving it to the world.
I was in Northern Italy and the Italians up there tended to look more Germanic/Slavic/Alpine than your Sylvester Stallone Italian American look. If a Middle Easterner is trying to pose as Italian, I would assume he is some mall kiosk bro from Sicily trying to peddle some bullcrap. It's a pet peeve lol, idk why americans think all Italians look like Al Pacino lol.
 
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Can you blame women for preferring whites when you have that preference as well? And you're not even white...lol.
I do not blame them for that. I was just born in this country and I have the citizenship. I see myself as part of this society. Of course you’re gonna think what’s wrong with me when the majority doesn’t want to date you even though you look average/good objectively.
Btw my country of origin is turkey and there are also many white girls, white like snow.
 

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Can you blame women for preferring whites when you have that preference as well? And you're not even white...lol.
and it’s not about whites only. All women that are German. Could be darker ones too
 

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I do not blame them for that. I was just born in this country and I have the citizenship. I see myself as part of this society. Of course you’re gonna think what’s wrong with me when the majority doesn’t want to date you even though you look average/good objectively.
Btw my country of origin is turkey and there are also many white girls, white like snow.
It's not just skin color, your culture poses stark differences that your average person does not want to delve in to even if there is physical attraction. I find Turkish girls beautiful, but I would never date one unless she was a Christian or converted to Christianity. In addition, yes Turkey has light skinned girls, but they aren't Germanic white looking, we can tell they are still from Turkey, Caucasia, or whatever. Even amongst Europeans, there's different types of "white" for them.
 

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It's not just skin color, your culture poses stark differences that your average person does not want to delve in to even if there is physical attraction. I find Turkish girls beautiful, but I would never date one unless she was a Christian or converted to Christianity. In addition, yes Turkey has light skinned girls, but they aren't Germanic white looking, we can tell they are still from Turkey, Caucasia, or whatever. Even amongst Europeans, there's different types of "white" for them.
true, I understand that but growing up and living in such a environment that is your home is a bit frustrating. It’s not like I don’t get any women or sex but being seen like you just described it by the majority doesn’t feel good and limits opportunities
 

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Many ethnicities call their lighter-skinned brethren "white"; in truth, they're just lighter-skinned; "white" means typically Caucasian.

e.g., Light brown brunettes get called blondes in Latin America. I've come across a lot of people who aren't Caucasians who consider themselves "white" to the point they are discriminatory to darker-skinned people - it's that fed up. This fascination with being white is ridiculous.

The OP's bated breath for white chicks perpetuates the cycle. It's absurd.

You can have the white girls bro...

 

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true, I understand that but growing up and living in such a environment that is your home is a bit frustrating. It’s not like I don’t get any women or sex but being seen like you just described it by the majority doesn’t feel good and limits opportunities
I completely understand, but what you are simply suffering from forbidden fruit syndrome. You can integrate in German Society and not date your prototypical German woman. I have never heard of any guy yearning after a German girl either, so idk why you are so saddened by this. You have the better deal with Turkish and other ethnic girls for sure!
 
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I completely understand, but what you are simply suffering from forbidden fruit syndrome. You can integrate in German Society and not date your prototypical German woman. I have never heard of any guy yearning after a German girl either, so idk why you are so saddened by this. You have the better deal with Turkish and other ethnic girls for sure!
I had sex with a couple of Turkish women and they're way better in bed than any of the German women I had sex with.
 

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I had sex with a couple of Turkish women and they're way better in bed than any of the German women I had sex with.
Classic forbidden fruit syndrome. In the US normal white American women are basically a shoot in space for minorities except light skinned Hispanics. I couldn’t accept it like OP until I learned that the other fruit in the forest were easier and much tastier.
 
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