"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Husband can't get over wife's dirty porno past!!!

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People can change...i know it's rare....i have grown a lot from my mistakes and value them....no, i wouldn't want my children hanging out with a pedophile for obvious reasons.......comparing that to a porno career is apples and oranges...although i would still value the pedophile as a human being...just a deeply misguided one who needs a lot of help.......and to who ever said that about their potential daughter or son...that is sad...
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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zinc4 said:
Would you do the same to your daughter or son?
Strawman argument mixed with BS romantic sentimentality.

He's not sticking his d!ck into his kids, he's trying to not feel physically repulsed by a woman who well and truly had a day and night pass at the c@ck carousel carnival, who also lied before him and God.

It's akin to me selling you fruit, telling you it's good. You take it home have a bite and it's filled with worms.

Not all men are comfortable with just rolling over spreading their legs and taking the high hard one of a chicks unleashed hypergamous past.

More fool this loser for actually getting married but that's a story for another time.
 

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Sure they can, but most often they do not.


She followed her emotions in her 20's, and here you are giving her a pass on it. Why is he not entitled to that same respect? Should he not have the same right to react accordingly and choose the path his emotions take him regarding this betrayal?

She hid her past for a reason, the same reason all women hide their past. They know how men observe such behavior and that it lowers their value for a commitment. She had a right to do as she pleases (as is the feminist mantra today). He has the same right to walk away, regardless of society (and you) shaming him to follow her best interest at the expense of his own.

I think it is is silly to worry about other guys that have had sex with your SO in the past......i don't know anyhting about their relationship...i am just talking about what was stated...he said he has no trust issues......if that is true...then he shouldn't judge her... he can walk away, no doubt..but if he really truly loves her he won't
 

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I think it is is silly to worry about other guys that have had sex with your SO in the past.
Not so fast there captain save a tramp, there is statistical evidence now that proves the more c@cks a woman rides the less chance of her being able to long term pair bond. Women are just not physically and mentally cut out to act like men.
 

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Geez I find some of the double standards going on here to be ridiculous.

With so much talk of hypergamy and such, how can you seriously expect girls these days to keep their numbers low? Slut shaming works AGAINST us.

Isn't a major goal of dating to learn more about yourself and what you like? How the hell is a girl supposed to know she actually likes you if she hasn't been with anyone else?

Knowing what I now know about the game and the dating scene, I don't think I can still look at promiscuity as a "bad" thing. Infidelity, of course, I will always look down upon, but that's different. I mean, sure, the idea of a girl saving herself for you and you being her one and only forever and ever is a tantalizing fantasy, but...c'mon.

@OP: Yes, admittedly I would probably be emotionally devastated as well. But I think the more I date and the more experience I have with women, the less something like that would faze me.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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sageproduct said:
But I think the more I date and the more experience I have with women, the less something like that would faze me.
I used to think the exact same thing, as a matter of fact there's many posts I made in the past parroting the same thing you are.

But I've come to realise it's all bullsh!t. You know how I know? Because when I was balls deep into playing the numbers game, weeding through the trash I was repeating the same mantra you are now back to myself. "Doesn't faze me, chicks will be chicks etc etc" I believed it. But then I met a woman who through a good upbringing didn't follow her free societal pass for hypergamous c@ck hopping. 2 yep you read that right 2 partners. I was her 2nd and she's now the mother of my son.

Now I think back and realise, women don't REALLY need to jump from c@ck to c@ck, it's not natural it's just unchecked.

My God though..the numbers it takes. It's not for the faint of heart.

Do you see what I'm saying or is this foreign?
 

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Danger said:
But committing to them? That's a whole different ball of wax. Where is the double standard there?
Someone actually made a post recently about how spinning plates renders you unable to commit, but it faced some strong disagreement.

My original argument was that we endlessly preach spinning plates, yet make it appear to be an inherently bad thing for a girl to do the same, to explore her sexuality. How can a girl be open with her sexuality, attractive, decent, yet not sleep around? What reason would she have for not sleeping around? Besides societal conditioning, which I say fwck that to?

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2 yep you read that right 2 partners. I was her 2nd and she's now the mother of my son.
I gotta say I'm beyond jealous. How old was she when you met? Perhaps you can answer my above questions based on her background.
Do you see what I'm saying or is this foreign?
Kind of, but I don't have a strong grasp of your point beyond just one counterexample. Are you saying that "Yes, it is possible to find a woman who has a rather blank sexual history?"

I guess I can rephrase my thoughts to say that I've lowered my expectations, and that that change has been a healthy one.
 

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zinc4 said:
If by that definition than i am a ***** and probably are you too....so what....he says he can fully trust her...maybe he really can't i don't know...i'm just saying it's silly to worry about other people your current has been with....that just makes no sense to me...once again this guy says he is okay with her trust but he can't get over the fact that she ****ed a lot of different guys......**** man i made a ton of mistakes in my past does that brand who i am? If this guy has any suspicions of cheating than that is a different story....but that is not what he is claiming....i just don't buy into the notion that women are bad people because they ****ed a lot of guys. If i was a woman i would just have fun....damn the social restrictions and codes.
Whether a woman fvking a lot of guys is a bad or good thing is up to the person in question. And she removed that possibility for him to make that choice by lying...

Also there is difference between fvcking several guys, fvcking a sh1T ton of guys, and fvcking a boatload of guys and being recorded to star in a porno (10-20). She did the latter and lied about it. If for anything, she's bad because she gave a fake portrayal of herself, not even cause she fvcked a lot of guys.
 

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Whether a woman fvking a lot of guys is a bad or good thing is up to the person in question. And she removed that possibility for him to make that choice by lying...
Precisely!

also, would you buy a car, fairly new, 10k miles recorded on the clock? somethign goes worng and you find its actually done 60k miles? would you be happy with that?

the guy has been LIED to, would he have married her had she told him shed had more c ock than a team of cheerleaders? my conservative estimate is...would he fcccuk!
 

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I find people that are overly sympathetic and unusually forgiving most often than not, are people that did some Ƒucked up ʂhit in their own past as well.

To overlook a woman that made 10-20 porno flicks and not tell you before marriage is beyond wrong. It's not the fact that she had sex frequently, it's the fact that it was recorder on tape for generations to see. Somewhere someone will have a copy...guaranteed!

Side Note: To forgive a pedophile and call him 'a human who just needs help' is beyond comprehension to me.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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zinc4 said:
My current GF has only been with 2 people...me being one of them....and i am not looking at standards...just how harshly we judge others on stuff we are not really above ourselves...
26, 2 sexual partners, you are one of them....going out on a limb here....I dont believe her!
 

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26, 2 sexual partners, you are one of them....going out on a limb here....I dont believe her!
I wouldn't believe her either. I've seen and heard women in double digits saying one night stands, blowj0bs and other sexual acts "don't count". The truth is you should never believe anything a woman tells you in this regard because you will never know anything beyond the social image she is trying to portray, and rest assured that these women WILL lie to the grave in order to protect it.

Too bad husbands never see the side of her that the men in her past have had the pleasure of experiencing.
 

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Danger said:
If he decided to stop working and sit on the couch all day, it would not take long to see how conditional her own love is.
This. Damned devastating response to childish rhetoric about "equality of the sexes."

The beauty of this site is that men can compare notes and wise up. Had DEVASTATED come to this site a few years before meeting Ms. Teen Porn Queen, he would have learned to screen, spin plates to be able to NEXT as soon as one shows a red flag, protect his heart, never marry, never waste time going after older women or those with kids, etc.

Now it looks like DEVASTATED will stop working and sit on the couch all day -- since he's now heartbroken, suicidally depressed, and grieving. Gee, you suppose Ms. Teen Porn Queen will understand?
 

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Oh, bs, I got my wife a laptop, in the Phillipinnes, so she COULD work on redtube.com and pay her OWN way over here. It cost her $5,000 for the ticket, visa, bond posted with her embassy, etc, and she put all that together in less than one year. My cost for the finest woman alive? $500
 

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Oh, bs, I got my wife a laptop, in the Phillipinnes, so she COULD work on redtube.com and pay her OWN way over here. It cost her $5,000 for the ticket, visa, bond posted with her embassy, etc, and she put all that together in less than one year. My cost for the finest woman alive? $500
The link to the finest woman alive, is missing
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Doing porn isn't a phase it's who you are. At her core she's a dirty girl
 

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betheman said:
The link to the finest woman alive, is missing
Or it didnt happen:D
 

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Danger said:
I understand your original argument, but who says you cannot have the best of both worlds? You act like you should play "fair" when it comes to the mating market. Why should that be the case when the social conventions, women's behavior and the misandric laws of today all work against you with no regard to "fair"?
Yeah, I think any further arguing on my part would just be pointless arguing for the sake of arguing.

Girls fwck alphas and marry betas, works too
 

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I wouldn't believe her either. I've seen and heard women in double digits saying one night stands, blowj0bs and other sexual acts "don't count". The truth is you should never believe anything a woman tells you in this regard because you will never know anything beyond the social image she is trying to portray, and rest assured that these women WILL lie to the grave in order to protect it.

Too bad husbands never see the side of her that the men in her past have had the pleasure of experiencing.
Ok, first off, I am currently living in Taiwan and have been back and forth here for a few years now...this type of thing is much more common in Taiwan...in fact, there are still many virgins here waiting for marriage...the girl i am seeing was raised in a very traditional Chinese household with super strict parents as 99 percent of the girls here...she has only been with 2 people and she is a very unique person in general, believe me she is 26 and helps support both of her parents with her high status job here and moved both of them into her new house to take care of them...she aint your average selfish woman...and one of my coworkers is married to a beautiful Taiwanese girl who was a virgin before they got married...this is much different than the United States where these type of things are very rare there...with that being said, however, there are still plenty of loose women around here, but they mainly populate night clubs and dating sites, obviously.

And about the porno past thing...i don't blame anyone for not wanting to marry a former porn star, but if you already have kids with her and supposedly love her than IMO it's worth trying as long as you believe you can actually trust, which he said he does. My issue was with him and the other poster who had been with a woman who had only been with 6 people not being able to get over the mental imagery a girl being ****ed by other men....but let's fac it, the average girl in the US now a days has been with a good number of guys. It just seems like that viewpoint is coming from a place of fear and nothing else. Personally, i couldn't do it because of trust issues....but that would be the only issue with me. But if i had a kid with her, than that is a whole other ball game on at least trying.
 

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You can TRY to change a ho but that's a losing game, its disgusting imagining myself in the same position as OP, and he has vids to add to his misery, she must have been hitting near a century at 27, complete misrepresentation, and you can bet she put a facade of being a good girl and lied about her sexual past to cover her "mistake" before getting married. If you had a kid with a BPD wouldn't change what she is, you can still provide the kids a great upbringing whether your with your SO or not.
 
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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