"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Me: Hey Sara, I noticed you were watching me skateboarding a couple of weeks ago (we only see each other once a week). I have a question
Her what
Me: Well do know how I was doing on my ollie? Was I getting into air? (blah blah blah)
Her: She answers my questions
Me: Ok thanks. Would you like to learn how to skateboard? (OK she is fairly interested in me already and Im making my move now. She likes Ryan Sheckler, but if shes intersted would she accept?)
Her: (Yes or no)
Me: Ok let me call you sometime.

Would ths work in a group and when she's alone?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Grand Wizzard Alamar

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you goin for a grammy with that script?
 

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lol, your way too serious lighten up and have fun. Your too serious with your opener say something like "Hey sara how do you like my amazing skateboarding skills?" and take it from there
 

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You think too much and are over analyzing the situation. Make small talk with her about skateboarding if that is your thing, but don't have a script all planned out.
 

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from my short time on this earth ive learned that nothing ever goes to plan , no matter how simple it is so u just gotta learn to adapt to things on the go. Start off with skateboard talk, and then let the conversation go into w.e
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I personally try to avoid canned lines, especially when they are scripts. I just use those to explain to people how the conversation should go, as an example. They hardly ever go to plan, and if they do and you end up memorizing these long scripts, they tend not to look natural and look rehearsed.
After reading a couple of canned lines, you tend to develop your own. Just approach her with that first line (Hey, noticed you saw me skateboarding a couple of weeks ago!), and see how it goes from there.

I personally would try this type of conversation when she is alone, I find it to be much easier especially because she won't be shy/embarrassed to say yes to you if there is nobody else around. Just relax, have some confidence and you are in! Way too many guys are posting threads in regards to approaches, relax about it and I'm sure you'll do fine! I actually just posted in a thread in regards of how to make conversation. Despite the fact that my reply was directed to him, I feel there is quite of bit of information you can learn from it as well.

URL:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=135617

Hope I helped!
 

Grand Wizzard Alamar

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Zack, if you know how to talk to people, why do you need a memorized opener?
What if she breaks your script and says something unrelated to what you expect?

You can talk. Practice. Here's your new opener:

"Hey." (with a smile)

Work with that. Test yourself and see what you can turn a simple hello into.
 
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