"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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How young is too young?

latinnova

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No I'm not talking about under 18 :rolleyes: . I'm 35 and am in college and hit it off great with the girls there... But when I get their age I feel like a creep, lol. Most of them are 20 and 21. It's like a mental block in my mind, I was 15 when they were born. Let me get the Don Juan thoughts on this. If you have anything to say to get my mind over thinking that it's creepy then let me know, lol. 25 and up I have no prob with, but 20 kind of throws up a red flag on me in my mind, lol, I know most of u think I'm nuts. That's y I'm asking how u process it in your brain, just to get a Don Juan thought process and help me get over mine. I guess what makes me feel so weird is that my oldest kid is 13, so my kid is way closer to age to these chicks then me, and that's what makes me feel a bit leery about it.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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harrison9876

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I am the same age as you...and just asked out a 20 year old.

In my mind, it depends on the maturity of the girl...and also yours.

I look like I am 25...and have great style and energy. I have a lot of wisdom and maturity...but I do not "act" 35.

Most girls like me in class, and the ages range from 20-25 on average.

The girl I asked out had a BF who she really liked (recently dumped), and he was 30. So if she is comfortable, then I did not see an issue.

I also dated a girl who was 20 years OLDER than me...she was a fitness instructor and had one of the BEST bodies I had ever seen. Her energy was young, and gave off a vibe of someone who was 40.

I think if a girl is legal...and there is a connection there...go for it.

Mike
 

latinnova

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Ok, sounds fair. Ya I usually get about 26 for the estimate of my age when asked, I always say " guess". They guess 26 and I just say "sounds good to me." And yes it does depend on maturity, I agree. There I some girls I can't even stand to have conversations with.
 

Slickster

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Don't be an ageist.

Filter people based on who they "are" not their age.

When you are 60 and she's 45 that age gap means nothing.
 

Bible_Belt

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How young is too young?

18. I can get a 19 y/o, but the 18 y/os keep ignoring me.

17 is legal in Illinois, and fvck it, I'd hit it. If your sweet innocent daughter is wh0ring it up, someone's going to hit it, might as well be me. I'm a nice guy :D
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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latinnova

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Bible_Belt said:
How young is too young?

18. I can get a 19 y/o, but the 18 y/os keep ignoring me.

17 is legal in Illinois, and fvck it, I'd hit it. If your sweet innocent daughter is wh0ring it up, someone's going to hit it, might as well be me. I'm a nice guy :D

Hahaha.... Well I only have one life to live and if I'm not breaking laws and the ladies are throwing it at me then I guess it's fair game. Damn, being married for the last 14 years has completely decimated my game and my mindset! Gotta get my original mindset back. I used to be so good at this sh!t. Seriously guys, I thought I would be able to jump right back into gaming , no way. It's like I'm learning from the beginning again and the social structure has changed a bit (with this social media shat). Things have been so ingrained in my mindset the past 14 years that it's hard to let go of it. But I have been moving forward, cracking and breaking out of this conservative shell that marriage had caged me in.
 

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Don't let someone else's programming control your life. That includes the idea of being a creep.

Just stay within the bounds of the law, for your own sake. Or don't, I don't care but know the risk. It's a big one.
 

Ronaldo7

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If she still has her training wheels on her bike, she is too young for you bro.
 

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I kind of know what you mean...I'm 28 and just moved to a large college city. I'm constantly coming into contact with 20-22 year olds whenever I go out, and it's taken me a long time to get used to the idea that "it's ok to date within that age range". I prefer the 23-26 age group overall, but there's nothing wrong with dating younger. I can't go 18-20, they're just too annoying and that IS too young for me personally...but even then, I don't think it's "wrong" for me to date that age depending on the situation. Just have fun and say to hell with it. Nobody has ever said anything to me about my age one way or the other, it tends to be a moot point and may be for you also even though you're a little older than me. Just stick to 21+ hangouts and don't worry about anybody's age.
 
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Bokanovsky

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latinnova said:
No I'm not talking about under 18 :rolleyes: . I'm 35 and am in college and hit it off great with the girls there... But when I get their age I feel like a creep, lol. Most of them are 20 and 21. It's like a mental block in my mind, I was 15 when they were born. Let me get the Don Juan thoughts on this.
My thoughts are you're a product of a feminized society, conditioned to think of these women as the forbidden fruit and feeling ashamed of your natural desires.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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All's fair between consenting adults, but I dont know how you could tolerate a 20 y.o. for any length of time. Before my LTR I had an off and on 22 y.o. and she was massively annoying. They are in that stage where they think they are on a level playing field with you intellectually but they have no clue what they dont know. Plus their flake factor is off the charts.

I mean if one is making it really easy for you, no one would blame you for helping yourself, but IMO your time is better used not actively pursuing them.
 

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It's fair game. They see you as older, wiser, and superior. If you play your cards right, they will throw themselves into your lap
 

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If she is 3 years younger then you fine, otherwise avoid.
 

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I'm 48 and have just met a promising 18 y.o. coed. Although that's a little under my target range, I don't have a problem with it. :D
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
As far as I can tell most of the game we learn here is designed for hot HS/College age women first and foremost...
And what praytell is the reason for throwing game around to someone who is not young & hot? :confused: Does a harridan need to be gamed? :crackup:
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Malcontent

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Whatever is legal in your location.

My last ex is 13 years younger and I don't really want to go any older than that.
 
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If her first phone was an iPhone, she's too young for you bro
 

jimmy18

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Well, there is a rule that you shouldn't be with a girl who is less than half your age plus 7.

But if there's grass on the green...
 

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Dear Latin,
At 37 I had a 23 year old lover,when I am taking my penultimate breath,as my old bones start rattling I shall be remembering the incredible thrill of it all!...Of course down the line it did come back to bite my Arse!
 

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below legal age = too young :)
all else is fair game. it can be harder if one looks too young or too old or has bad game, but manageable.
my 2 cents
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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