"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Yo'Mama said:
I mailed her and said 'Let's meet at mine then take it from there'.
Good move, but I would have been interested to see her response to going dutch. Next time trust your gut instinct and act on it, then write a post afterward and tell us how your move worked out. I don't think you needed advice here.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Hey guys,

Well first of all the girl from yesterday came round today and we spent a great afternoon together. I made up for yesterday's lousy performance (if you haven't read the other thread I basically lasted 3 minutes. Put that right today).

So I'm feeling extremely relaxed right now, lol. I probably will end up going to that restaurant with her but unless it's clear we are going back to mine afterwards then she is picking up her half of the cheque whether she knows it or not.

I'll let you know how it goes and whether I pvssy out when the bill comes and there's that awkwardness with her just sitting there expecting me to pay. I can face this down though.
 

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Update.

I went on the date last night in the end. The food was excellent and much more reasonable than I thought it would be. She also ordered cheaper dishes. She wasn't trying to order the most expensive stuff or loads of wine by any means. I paid however.

We went to a bar afterwards. Some light kissing, nothing much.

At the end of the date she said she wanted us to go to a late night cafe and chill there. I basically said we should go back to my place. She told me 'not tonight'. I was like, 'Come on are you serious?!'. She said she was so I just said 'Ok, whatever' then left.

I wasn't planning on contacting her again. I just got this message from her:

''Hi Y,

thank you for the last night. I had a great time.

One thing I should tell you that I am not seeking immediate intimacy so if you are only expecting that I am not the one. and i don't want to be in that pressure all the time. I hope you can understand".

At the end of the date I had just sort of assumed she was somebody that wanted to be taken on dates to nice restaurants, etc. I still think that may well be the case. I'm also not really down for this whole 'I'm not going to have sex with you for ages' BS. I'd really expect fo f*ck any girl on the third date at the latest.

It is nice hanging out with her and I find her attractive. But I really would expect there to be some physical contact and then after that we can decide whether we should become a bit more serious.

Anyway thanks for the advice. On balance I had a nice time and really enjoyed the food but I did end up paying and not getting anything so it probably wasn't worth it."
 
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