"Blank Mind on Dates? She's Dropping Hints You Keep Missing"

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How would you play this :) ?

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Ok so like a week+ or so ago? I posted a thread about gifts and handling this girl ( http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44863 )

Now I went fvckho and just got her a nice thong and alittle bottle of nice massage oil... It was like 20 bucks, I don't care anyways.

Now she just came back today (to where we both live) and I was away on MSN (as in awaymodus) and when I came back now I saw a msg from her saying

her: hey hey
her: I'm finally back! I was gonna drop by you when I arrived but I had so much luggage and XXXXX was with me
her: So we gotta hook up tomorrow or something!!!!

then she disconnected (I know she'd been on for a while, XXXXX was probably there). XXXXX = her bf btw....

Now I'm wondering how I'm gonna handle this... Do I want her BF gone? Yes... Do I want to date her then maybe? Yes...

Stuff that has happened that I think shows IL:
We meet at a party we go out dancing and dance all night like grinding the whole evening etc but she gets frustrated by the end and says "**** we can't do anything I have a bf" (Her whole bodylanguage screams of disappointment)...
Next day she gets on MSN and is all blushing and going "I'm afraid, you charmed me so much"..
We talked frequently on MSN after that about just about everything, school etc and when she had homesickness etc (Yes I was being nice then). She pretty much knew I liked her and she told me she really liked me so ye... Whatever.
She asked me out several times for evening/nightly strolls.
She asked me if I wanted to addend some conserts with her (Which ended in she standing infront of me leaning towards me, she even took and held my hands sometimes)
She bought me a christmaspresant (as seen in the thread above, a silkboxer)...

Also her bodylanguage is really receptive, she tilts her head, blushes alot, laughs all the time, gets shyish when I kid with her.

But on another note one time I was going to a party and we were chatting on MSN and I was like "Soo I'm gonna take a shower, I might let you join me ;)" and she replied "....that's inappropriate to say, I have a BF...."


So how would you play this people :)
 

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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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She's flirting with you because your giving her attention bro!!! Its amazing how you think she wants you, when she is always putting the STOP SIGN on REAL advances. Look, I'm not saying she's isn't attracted to you, but what I am saying is this:

If a girl has a bf and you know about it, but she's interested in you, she'll NEVER bring him up. She'll focus on you and more importantly you guys would/should have hooked up. You've never kissed her, you obviously haven't fuvked her and I don't really see that happening because she still likes her boyfriend. Yeah you guys grinded, which is good, but girls will grind with almost anyone know days.


And yes it was AFC as hell to buy her a gift, regardless of what it was or how much it cost. Don't do that **** until you've fuvked her.

You can get all pissed and say I'm wrong and tell me "how different" this girl is and blah blah blah, but facts are facts. Your her little attention giver, nothing more. She'll flirt with you to keep you around, not because she really likes you. NEXT her dood, your not a fukin' emotional slut are you??


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Try to ration the amount of time you just hang out with her as 'friends' - if you want this to work out you must avoid the f-zone at all costs.

However, during the time you DO spend with her, work that kino - make her want you. And if she falls for you and tries to start fooling around with you, back off and say: "...that's inappropriate to do, you have a bf;)"

If you pull something like this properly, you'll be able to draw her away from her bf, and get her to yourself at the same time.

Now the question is, do you really want a relationship with someone with loyalty this frail?
 
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Well I actually agree with you =) She likes the attention, that is clear :)

Ye she likes her bf but they don't have it good (good friend of mine is her neighbour and relays her situation periodically since they are best friends). A less attractive geek spending almost all the time he is with her at her computer etc is not something good.

I only bought her a gift cause she bought me one. She might flirt to keep me around but she knows I'm not like INTO her cause she hears about other girls etc and often see me with them.

I'm just gonna distance myself abit from her :)
 

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I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Originally posted by Pimp-sicle
And yes it was AFC as hell to buy her a gift, regardless of what it was or how much it cost. Don't do that **** until you've fuvked her.
How was it AFC of him to buy her a gift when she gave him one? It's a christmaspresant in return for the one she gave him... I would call that rather normal and respectfull...
 

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I dont agree with pimpsicle. She obviously wants your nuts and feels frustrated because of her current commitment. If u want some from her, progressively increase the amount of kino and relieve her of her concience (sp?) - say you'll keep this affair a secret and that you think there's nothing wrong with it. Also play a little hard to get once in a while, like skipping a day of being on MSN, cancelling some appointments. However, dont start a relationship with her. Keep her with her boyfriend. Girls love these adventurous, "dangerous" romances. It gives it a special flair.
 
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I see we have some mixed opinions here :p hmm

Well no I won't start a relationship with her, I'd like to see what I can get todo with her though... Sexually etc.. Sexually and as an affair I think we could have alot of fun since we have very much in common such as musictaste, love for dancing/clubbing etc.

I'm gonna see how it'll play out. I do actually think she's interested even though what pimpsicle says makes some sense too.
 
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Any more opinions =) ?

Any of the major DJs have anything to say? Or someone with some relevant experience/thoughts? Maybe some female opinions(GASP :p) ?
 
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A little update, maybe it's insignificant or not I just wanted to let you know :)


I visited my friend today because one of our good ol friends were visiting (this is where the girl lives...). She knew I would come over to visit.

So we are in my mates room talking, having fun and she comes out of her room and walks past us and she glances in and sees me and spontaneously runs inn in joy and gets really happy and throws herself around my neck hugging me (the kind where she lifts her feet up to her ass and hangs around your neck) and then she held really tight around me and hugged even more. She was really happy and we chatted some as usual :) Everytime I was talking with my friends etc she would take stare at me etc.

Now after awhile my other friend walks inn and asks her if her visitor is still here (which I Understod was her bf) she got really uneasy and answered low "ye, he is bored and I didn't want to sit around and be bored with him". We talked some more but I didn't give her much time or attention... I didn't bring my presant either for that matter...

After a while of just standing there resting at the wall, not saying anything, sneaking peeks at me while we boys where chatting, listening to music and having fun she went back into her room. I stay there longer playing some games with my buds etc and head over to my dorm.

Now we send a couple of SMS and it ends that she wants me to come over to her place tomorrow evening cause she wants to be alone... Ye see the logic in that :p Maybe it's cause she wants her presant or whatever :p


Anyways just wanted to give this update and wanted to see if anyone could give me some additional opinions/info.... What does she want and how can I play it to get her?


Sincerely someone that needs to learn how to read women :)

PS. I do have other girls so this is not oneitis but yes I do want to fvck her (probably because she has a BF).


thx in advance :)
 

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Originally posted by Kineti[C]harm
How was it AFC of him to buy her a gift when she gave him one? It's a christmaspresant in return for the one she gave him... I would call that rather normal and respectfull...

I somehow skipped the part where it said she bought him a gift first. But I still wouldn't haven't bought her anything, I would have thrown a little C/F on her. Anyways, it definitely seems after reading your most recent update that this girl is on your nutz. She might be holding on to theat boyfriend just in case she can't have you in a relationship.

Your doing well bro, keep it up and I'm sure tomorrow night will be a good one for you.



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Yes I hope it'll work out as I want but I'm not expecting anything. We will see....

I think it's a pretty good sign that she says she wants to be alone but at the same time invites me to come over :p :p :p Not to mention all the other stuff like buying a gift to me, being that happy to see me, having missed me etc. :p So I atleast think pretty sure that she has a HIGH IL inn me but only time and some DJing will tell :)

Thank you for your input Pimp-sicle, it's much appreciated.
 

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As succinctly as I can put it:

Ditch the B1tch or hit it and quit it because if she'll do it with you, she'll do it to you.

My god, I'm on cliche overload here.

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Well honestly can't do much against me :) If she doesn't want me in that way I'll just keep her as a friend, it doesn't matter :)

Small update...:

I was gonna see her this evening but I wasn't home before after 23 and she wasn't home then either. We were both back at dorms at about midnight and we IMd briefly. I was like "So, how's it going", she was like "Fine, i'm freezing, just walked home".

(This is how I remember the convo)

me: "Weren't you supposed to be home alone this evening for me to come knocking ;)?"

her: I was!! I sent XXX (BF name) away early morning and I was home until 21!!!! I couldn't sit around waiting for you all day ! (She had gone down to a friend after 21 a visit).

me: Well I was gone all day with some female friends of mine, they just picked up their studentloans so we went out :)

her: Lets make better plans this time so when do you have time tomorrow ??

me: Well I'm busy all morning/afternoong and I'm visiting someone in the evening (girl i'm fvcking) so I might have some time early evening :p

she: Ok that sounds good !

couple lines of chatter...

me: Tsk tsk, how are you going to make this up to me, I've stricken you from my list of marriagepossibilities!

her: I'll find a way! (Crying emoticon) Tears always work! :p

me: Ye you think that and see :p You got to find up something better than that ;)

her: Ye I'll think of something...!

her: Gotta go to bed so I get up for school tomorrow!!

her: Bye bye sweetie! (She didn't use the word sweetie though it's just the word I can most loosely translate from our languages term but the term she used in our language means more like friend just like sweetie often is said to friends..)

I cannot recall her ever using that word before though :p hmm. So I'm abit ambivalent on what she is doing here actually..
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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She is a wh@re and has no scruples - why would you send each other panties and she has a boyfriend? HUH? She is ready to go in due time - al hos are!! Her bf is doing her good and has a big penis and she don't want to blow it! No pun intended.
 

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I do think she has some scruples, as I read this it seems as if she just isn't having fun with the BF and is looking for something better and he has obviously gotten her interested...
 
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Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
She is a wh@re and has no scruples - why would you send each other panties and she has a boyfriend? HUH? She is ready to go in due time - al hos are!! Her bf is doing her good and has a big penis and she don't want to blow it! No pun intended.
Scruples or no scruples, I don't care really :) Either I bang her or I don't, time will tell...

I've always wondered why there are "so many" nerds (Sorry for the choice of word) and social rejects that supposedly are good in bed... This dude spends all his time with her at her computer, except at nighttime I guess when he sleeps there...

Some info on the BF though....

It's an old friend of hers (I THINK...) they atleast knew eachother from before she moved here...

She has had alot of problems adjusting to living away from parents and old friends so I think that this BF might be what she has used for emotional gain/support.

They bore eachother it seems and numerous times she's been distressed/out of it because of him...


Yes I was totally surprised when she bought me a christmas gift and I was even MORE surprised when I saw it was a really cool and sexy silkboxer....

I'm gonna play this out though on the side, nomather what happens it will be great experience and good for me anyways. If I bone her or not I'll either get some more ass or I'll get a good friend. I will also learn more about this type of female behavior and kind.
 

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Just go for it... She seems to be showing alot of different signals. I'm surprised you haven't moved inn before but I can also see how you might have doubted abit :) I'm not very good with analyzing this kind of behavior cause I've never encountered it and the only girls with BF's I've gone for have most often initiated it.

Just read what others have said here and see if you get some more tips on how to handle it and move inn...
 

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Originally posted by ApparentlyFromMars

We meet at a party we go out dancing and dance all night like grinding the whole evening etc but she gets frustrated by the end and says "**** we can't do anything I have a bf" (Her whole bodylanguage screams of disappointment)...

"Soo I'm gonna take a shower, I might let you join me ;)" and she replied "....that's inappropriate to say, I have a BF...."
Charm her again, except this time make her forget her bf. Then just make a move. What have you got to lose. Unless her bf is a really big fvcker!
 

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