"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How would I go about this approach?

Telurn

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There is this girl that works at this place I frequent. The other day when I went she was constantly sparking up a conversation with me (as I was waiting, she would keep coming back to the counter, lean on the counter and talk to me). I wanted to number close her there but wasn't sure if I was confusing interest with her friendlyness and outgoing personality.

I'm a confident guy and i'm not socially awkward, I was able to hold a conversation with her, but I want to take it a little further...get to know her more. I don't want to use some off the wall techniques because I feel like if I do and it fails, I'll be known as "that guy" everytime I come to this place (and there is no other option, i HAVE to come back).

What should I say, do, not do...any advice?

---I will paypal $5 to the person who provides me with the best advice---
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Nope...no money or tipping was involved...

she works at the front desk where i get my hair cuts at...i mean obviously if things did crash and burn i COULD go to a different location, but I really dont want to because I am happy with the service they provide.
 

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"Holding a conversation" with someone who's really outgoing (which she probably is) is easy to do.

But you need to ask yourself, "Have I done anything to differentiate myself from the other guys that come into this place?" If not, it might just be that she's really outgoing and nice to everyone. So measure accordingly.

My advice to you (and it certainly ain't worth $5) is to make an effort to pull her out of the studio. You need to be in a different location before you can start building her comfort level. So I'd say don't ask her out on a "date."

Instead, do this: the instant you get her laughing, INTERRUPT her laughter and say, "HEY, I'm interested in getting a coffee on your break."

Notice how I wrote that. I didn't say (1) "in getting YOU a coffee," nor did I say (2) "in getting a coffee WITH YOU", nor did I (3) ask a question.

Why're these things important? (1) this sounds like you're supplicating, like you're trying to buy her time. A high-value guy doesn't need to buy anyone's time, they'll willingly give it. Give off that vibe. (2) is implied. But if she's witty there's a chance she might ask, "you mean with me?" And then you can smile (smile slowly--I think it's a lot more attractive to smile like you're trying not to) and say "Alright. You can come." (3) You're not asking her permission, you're getting yourself a coffee, goddammit. Also, asking questions changes the tone of your voice, and in my opinion it makes you sound less decisive.

...having trouble thinking of how to get her to laugh? Check this sh!t out:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7792102.stm
 

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Telurn said:
What should I say, do, not do...any advice?

"I hate to see you stuck in here all day. Wondering if you have some time after work to join me for some coffee? I know this great place right around the corner."
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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