"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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How well do you have to "perform" on a date to get another one?

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Let's hypothetically create a 1-10 to scale that women would rate dates on...

1- girl had a terrible time and told you that she did
5- girl had an average time, nothing out of the ordinary
9- eye contact, kino, kiss close
10- sex on the first night

What "score" (in your opinion) would be the minimum for securing a second date?

For anyone that thinks this is stupid or that you should be the prize, I'm just trying to have fun and am throwing this out there to hear some thoughts and get some feedback...
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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tsmith2334 said:
this is stupid or that you should be the prize,

Strive to be a ten in everything that you do.

I don't get caught up on formulas, but if a girl is like a 7 or 8 on that scale, I might ask her out again, if I had a good time.. she doesn't have to **** me.


In fact if a girl ****s me on the first date, there is no way im going to call her again ever because she is a ho.:woo:
 

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If you get anything below a 7 on that scale, you're not doing it right.

Either on the date itself, or picking a girl to go out with. Somewhere along the line, you're not doing it right.
 

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BCOMusic said:
Strive to be a ten in everything that you do.

I don't get caught up on formulas, but if a girl is like a 7 or 8 on that scale, I might ask her out again, if I had a good time.. she doesn't have to **** me.


In fact if a girl ****s me on the first date, there is no way im going to call her again ever because she is a ho.:woo:
I agree with what you say completely.

I'm just basing this off my last date, which probably was like a 7.5 on the DJ scale. I know she had fun, I just wasn't 100% with all the DJ techniques. (That's how I felt it went anyway, though I can be really hard on myself)

I've changed alot since then, I've been reading up a lot of nice tips on here. I just figure you're only as good as your last one, and since it wasn't a 10, I just hope there's still a chace for date number two.
 

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A better question would be to ask yourself: How would I rate HER performance on our date?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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BCOMusic said:
In fact if a girl ****s me on the first date, there is no way im going to call her again ever because she is a ho.:woo:
Wow. So if you really tried to sleep with the girl and did all your techniques to get past her ASD (anti-slut defense) and you get to sleep with her, that makes her a ho?

Guys like you are the reason girls even have ASD :down:
 

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tsmith2334 said:
9- eye contact, kino, kiss close
Eye contact is always required. It should be paramount to everything else.
 

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Maxtro said:
Wow. So if you really tried to sleep with the girl and did all your techniques to get past her ASD (anti-slut defense) and you get to sleep with her, that makes her a ho?

Guys like you are the reason girls even have ASD :down:
And they should. I'm not touching no wh0re. Mabye you enjoy it, it just turns me off. If they suck off every guy they meet as many do.
 

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young_gun said:
A better question would be to ask yourself: How would I rate HER performance on our date?
I KNEW someone would say that. And it's very true, I just figure attraction has to work both ways. Thanks for the feedback.
 

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BCOMusic said:
In fact if a girl ****s me on the first date, there is no way im going to call her again ever because she is a ho.:woo:

You must be damn good looking to say this.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Bvbidd said:
And they should. I'm not touching no wh0re. Mabye you enjoy it, it just turns me off. If they suck off every guy they meet as many do.

I don't get it.

We spend all our energy, money and time on a girl we really like in order to get her to sleep with us once. When she doesn't, we get all pissed off and complain on this site that we can't get any action.

Then when there is a girl (wh0re) who is willing and ready to sleep with us, we get all pissed off that they are one, refuse to sleep with them, and complain on this site that we can't get any action.


That's a delicious cake, I'll have it and eat it too.
 

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DonJuan11 said:
I don't get it.

We spend all our energy, money and time on a girl we really like in order to get her to sleep with us once. When she doesn't, we get all pissed off and complain on this site that we can't get any action.

Then when there is a girl (wh0re) who is willing and ready to sleep with us, we get all pissed off that they are one, refuse to sleep with them, and complain on this site that we can't get any action.


That's a delicious cake, I'll have it and eat it too.
No no no no, you don't understand. There's a very fine line between those two conclusions, see? And that very fine line represents the "Guys I found a keeper!" threads. Notice how those threads are so rare? Yeah. Now you see it.



Hmmm... I started this post in a sarcastic tone, but then I realized my joke is actually true. :D
 

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Ah, we all got a little off-topic here. I'm kind of undecided about sex on a first date, it's obviously pretty controverisal. Obviously though, that's a 10 in terms of attraction.

I think a 7+ should be able to earn a second date in most instances. That seems to be the consensus here?
 
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Leave the "performance" for the monkey - be a man!!!!!
 

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DJs dont date girls, they hang out with them.

Taking a girl out on a typical date puts the girl into a certain strict ruleset for dates, wheras "hanging" out with a girl puts the girl in completely different ruleset which opens up for more kino and fun.

Oh, and it costs less money aswell.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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if a girl goes all the way on the first date, I don't think it was because of your "DJ" skills i think it was because the girl was a ho bag and loves fcuking everyone.

I'll hook up with a girl on the first date and still call her, but dude think about it,

she fcks you within one night, what makes you think she hasn't ****ed someone else in one night, multiple people. It just isn't classy and womanly to do that.

A quality women wouldn't even think of fcking you in one night,

also, this just is distrustful, she is bound to cheat on you with an open leg mentality like that.

I still would want to fck her, but it would most likely always stay at that.

I don't even put effort into girls like this,
the "good girls" are the freaks, and the good girls are quality in everything beyond the sex.

ostepop
that was a rock on statement i never thought about it that way, but i definatly agree.
 

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Hm...
You can have a 10 out of 10 date with her all glowing and shining and ready to slip under the table and suck our cawk... and still not get a second date. Happens all the time. Why? You did everything right, pushed her buttons and pulled her strings... BUT - you don´t fit her agenda. Her timeline. Her plans.

Don´t ever forget that this sweet emotional fickle creatures underneath are a 1000 times as calculating as any man ever could be.
So you could give her a 10/10 emotional time, but fail her rational checklist. And get shytcanned.
 

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Rudra said:
Hm...
You can have a 10 out of 10 date with her all glowing and shining and ready to slip under the table and suck our cawk... and still not get a second date. Happens all the time. Why? You did everything right, pushed her buttons and pulled her strings... BUT - you don´t fit her agenda. Her timeline. Her plans.

Don´t ever forget that this sweet emotional fickle creatures underneath are a 1000 times as calculating as any man ever could be.
So you could give her a 10/10 emotional time, but fail her rational checklist. And get shytcanned.
Damn, that's a hard-hitting spin on it that I never thought of. And it definately seems very accurate.
 

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It shouldn't be a performance. It's the same philosophy behind successful public thinking, it should be spontaneous and keep a conversational brevity. It's all about being able to live in the moment and think on your feet. Most girls are really pretty boring, it's your job to keep it interesting.
 
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