"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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How well do you have to "perform" on a date to get another one?

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Let's hypothetically create a 1-10 to scale that women would rate dates on...

1- girl had a terrible time and told you that she did
5- girl had an average time, nothing out of the ordinary
9- eye contact, kino, kiss close
10- sex on the first night

What "score" (in your opinion) would be the minimum for securing a second date?

For anyone that thinks this is stupid or that you should be the prize, I'm just trying to have fun and am throwing this out there to hear some thoughts and get some feedback...
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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tsmith2334 said:
this is stupid or that you should be the prize,

Strive to be a ten in everything that you do.

I don't get caught up on formulas, but if a girl is like a 7 or 8 on that scale, I might ask her out again, if I had a good time.. she doesn't have to **** me.


In fact if a girl ****s me on the first date, there is no way im going to call her again ever because she is a ho.:woo:
 

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If you get anything below a 7 on that scale, you're not doing it right.

Either on the date itself, or picking a girl to go out with. Somewhere along the line, you're not doing it right.
 

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BCOMusic said:
Strive to be a ten in everything that you do.

I don't get caught up on formulas, but if a girl is like a 7 or 8 on that scale, I might ask her out again, if I had a good time.. she doesn't have to **** me.


In fact if a girl ****s me on the first date, there is no way im going to call her again ever because she is a ho.:woo:
I agree with what you say completely.

I'm just basing this off my last date, which probably was like a 7.5 on the DJ scale. I know she had fun, I just wasn't 100% with all the DJ techniques. (That's how I felt it went anyway, though I can be really hard on myself)

I've changed alot since then, I've been reading up a lot of nice tips on here. I just figure you're only as good as your last one, and since it wasn't a 10, I just hope there's still a chace for date number two.
 

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A better question would be to ask yourself: How would I rate HER performance on our date?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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BCOMusic said:
In fact if a girl ****s me on the first date, there is no way im going to call her again ever because she is a ho.:woo:
Wow. So if you really tried to sleep with the girl and did all your techniques to get past her ASD (anti-slut defense) and you get to sleep with her, that makes her a ho?

Guys like you are the reason girls even have ASD :down:
 

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tsmith2334 said:
9- eye contact, kino, kiss close
Eye contact is always required. It should be paramount to everything else.
 

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Maxtro said:
Wow. So if you really tried to sleep with the girl and did all your techniques to get past her ASD (anti-slut defense) and you get to sleep with her, that makes her a ho?

Guys like you are the reason girls even have ASD :down:
And they should. I'm not touching no wh0re. Mabye you enjoy it, it just turns me off. If they suck off every guy they meet as many do.
 

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young_gun said:
A better question would be to ask yourself: How would I rate HER performance on our date?
I KNEW someone would say that. And it's very true, I just figure attraction has to work both ways. Thanks for the feedback.
 

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BCOMusic said:
In fact if a girl ****s me on the first date, there is no way im going to call her again ever because she is a ho.:woo:

You must be damn good looking to say this.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Bvbidd said:
And they should. I'm not touching no wh0re. Mabye you enjoy it, it just turns me off. If they suck off every guy they meet as many do.

I don't get it.

We spend all our energy, money and time on a girl we really like in order to get her to sleep with us once. When she doesn't, we get all pissed off and complain on this site that we can't get any action.

Then when there is a girl (wh0re) who is willing and ready to sleep with us, we get all pissed off that they are one, refuse to sleep with them, and complain on this site that we can't get any action.


That's a delicious cake, I'll have it and eat it too.
 

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DonJuan11 said:
I don't get it.

We spend all our energy, money and time on a girl we really like in order to get her to sleep with us once. When she doesn't, we get all pissed off and complain on this site that we can't get any action.

Then when there is a girl (wh0re) who is willing and ready to sleep with us, we get all pissed off that they are one, refuse to sleep with them, and complain on this site that we can't get any action.


That's a delicious cake, I'll have it and eat it too.
No no no no, you don't understand. There's a very fine line between those two conclusions, see? And that very fine line represents the "Guys I found a keeper!" threads. Notice how those threads are so rare? Yeah. Now you see it.



Hmmm... I started this post in a sarcastic tone, but then I realized my joke is actually true. :D
 

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Ah, we all got a little off-topic here. I'm kind of undecided about sex on a first date, it's obviously pretty controverisal. Obviously though, that's a 10 in terms of attraction.

I think a 7+ should be able to earn a second date in most instances. That seems to be the consensus here?
 
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Leave the "performance" for the monkey - be a man!!!!!
 

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DJs dont date girls, they hang out with them.

Taking a girl out on a typical date puts the girl into a certain strict ruleset for dates, wheras "hanging" out with a girl puts the girl in completely different ruleset which opens up for more kino and fun.

Oh, and it costs less money aswell.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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if a girl goes all the way on the first date, I don't think it was because of your "DJ" skills i think it was because the girl was a ho bag and loves fcuking everyone.

I'll hook up with a girl on the first date and still call her, but dude think about it,

she fcks you within one night, what makes you think she hasn't ****ed someone else in one night, multiple people. It just isn't classy and womanly to do that.

A quality women wouldn't even think of fcking you in one night,

also, this just is distrustful, she is bound to cheat on you with an open leg mentality like that.

I still would want to fck her, but it would most likely always stay at that.

I don't even put effort into girls like this,
the "good girls" are the freaks, and the good girls are quality in everything beyond the sex.

ostepop
that was a rock on statement i never thought about it that way, but i definatly agree.
 

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Hm...
You can have a 10 out of 10 date with her all glowing and shining and ready to slip under the table and suck our cawk... and still not get a second date. Happens all the time. Why? You did everything right, pushed her buttons and pulled her strings... BUT - you don´t fit her agenda. Her timeline. Her plans.

Don´t ever forget that this sweet emotional fickle creatures underneath are a 1000 times as calculating as any man ever could be.
So you could give her a 10/10 emotional time, but fail her rational checklist. And get shytcanned.
 

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Rudra said:
Hm...
You can have a 10 out of 10 date with her all glowing and shining and ready to slip under the table and suck our cawk... and still not get a second date. Happens all the time. Why? You did everything right, pushed her buttons and pulled her strings... BUT - you don´t fit her agenda. Her timeline. Her plans.

Don´t ever forget that this sweet emotional fickle creatures underneath are a 1000 times as calculating as any man ever could be.
So you could give her a 10/10 emotional time, but fail her rational checklist. And get shytcanned.
Damn, that's a hard-hitting spin on it that I never thought of. And it definately seems very accurate.
 

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It shouldn't be a performance. It's the same philosophy behind successful public thinking, it should be spontaneous and keep a conversational brevity. It's all about being able to live in the moment and think on your feet. Most girls are really pretty boring, it's your job to keep it interesting.
 
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