"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Well, shortly, she was interested in me, we kissed one another once, would go out kinda often, she would talk about marriage, kids with me, etc lol, but problem - I was way too clingy. She is now interested in another guy. She admitted it and stated that I was too needy. Is it possible to win her over again? I don't want to next her yet, she's damn hot.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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time2change said:
I was way too clingy.

Describe what you mean by too clingy. What kind of things would you do to be that way? How often would you text, call? Did you dote on her? Real clingy huggy in person, ect..
 

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Unlikely. You'll have to go without being clingy; ideally, not even speaking to her for a while and reengage sometime in the future, to have a chance with it.

That's my experience, at least. I ended up doing that to a girl, back in high school days. About a year and a half later we had some random contact restarted (she initiated) and I ended up getting a nice evening with a movie at her place.
 

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Well, I was jealous, would tezt her sometimes too often with questions" whats worng" "Are you mad for sth"? And so on. I also would question her loyalty too often. Ebglish is not my native language so it's kinda difficult for me sometimes to express what I wanna say.
 

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No winning over a girl who's sucking someone else's ****. You need to next her, go NC, and find other women.

Why would you want to take back a girl who knew you, knew you were in love with her, and then LEFT YOU BY CHOICE for another man? It's blatant disrespect. There are many other women out there who will give you the respect you deserve.

I live by quote: "Treat people the way they treat you." Sure you can give them the benefit of the doubt by being extra-nice in the beginning. Then when they **** up, you **** them up or go NC which is as good as ****ing them up ;)

Enjoy!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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time2change said:
Well, I was jealous, would tezt her sometimes too often with questions" whats worng" "Are you mad for sth"? And so on. I also would question her loyalty too often. Ebglish is not my native language so it's kinda difficult for me sometimes to express what I wanna say.

Now you know what you did wrong. Tell this girl you wish her well and you're not interested in being friends but if she changes her mind she can call you. Then walk away and don't look back. Do not contact her. It will be hard but you have to man up. That's the best you can do. Learn from your mistakes with the next one.
 

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She aint sucking nobody's **** at the moment :D well, yeah, I know I did bad, but would like another shot with her. Deleted her of facebook week before, today I texted her again(know it's no good) we have a friendly chat with one another at the moment, but I guess I'll go no contact for a few weeks now. Then I'll see if there's still a chance.
 

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well, yeah, I know I did bad, but would like another shot with her.

There is nothing you can do or say to make her want you more. You can only do things to make her want you less. That's why it's best to do nothing.
 

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There is nothing you can do or say to make her want you more. You can only do things to make her want you less. That's why it's best to do nothing.
That's what imma do right now. Should I respond to her texts when she contacts me?
 

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Should I respond to her texts when she contacts me?
Yeah, if she contacts you keep the convo super short and then immediately and unemotionally ask her out on a date. If she says no which she probably will just say "Okay.". Then don't contact her again. Repeat forever until she stops contacting you lol. The only reason you want to be communicating with her is to setup date opportunities for sex.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Well, yeah, now as I think more clearly, imma probably next her ass. Apparently that ***** was lying to me. Won't initiate no contact with her. If she starts(and I have a good reason to think that she will) I'll stay short and not too emotional. Will see where this leads. Just interesting how fast can a woman's IL drop... In a few days lol. One day she talks about marriage, etc, a few days later she LJBFs you. Cool.
 

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ok, deleted her fb, blocked her and moving on. Even if there was a possibility to work everything out at the moment, I still believe that once a cheater, always a cheater.
 

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time2change said:
Well, shortly, she was interested in me, we kissed one another once, would go out kinda often, she would talk about marriage, kids with me, etc lol, but problem - I was way too clingy. She is now interested in another guy. She admitted it and stated that I was too needy. Is it possible to win her over again? I don't want to next her yet, she's damn hot.
The more you try, the more you're pushing her away. Forget about her and go after that girl in your dorms. You don't want to give up on her, but giving up is your only hope, seriously. Everyone will tell you, just go no contact. She'll hit you up - the trick is to not answer when/if she calls you. Either way, you win, since you'll have time to heal and move on.

Otherwise, yeah, stick a fork in it, it's done. It's not what you want to hear, but it's the way things generally are.
 

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lmao, she just texted me asking whether I had deleted her from fb once again. NC
 

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Punch out, Maverick, it's over!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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lmao, she just texted me asking whether I had deleted her from fb once again. NC
Send her a text message telling her to go and snort cocaine out of her Daddy's Ars*hole.

That should get the message across loud and clear.
 

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Naaah, I just instantly deleted the message, that's all, I don't even have her number anymore, just remembered it when she texted me.
 

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i'm going to give you a mind **** her...


how about she wins over you?


why are you trying to " win her over" ?

lets face it. your never going to "win her over" she isn't the prize to be won here son. YOU ARE!

if it was me. i would put her on the back burner for a bit. you can't just give her everything up front. once she has everything and knows you. then it's game over.

try giving it in small BURSTS. she dose something you like. reward her with a small burst of something. tell her a little bit more about you.

YOU are the tree and SHE is the squirrel that runs around you. be more grounded man. know who you are and what you believe in. have hobbies and hit the gym.

you feel me?
 

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she texted me a few hours ago asking what I was doing. After an hour I sent her(roughly translated from my language): "I've moved on;)". No response from her since then.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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