"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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how to tease her but being nice at the same time?

foomee

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i've got the whole mean thing down, and apparently it's been working pretty good. but she's always saying "i hate you" and "you can't go one day without saying something mean to me" etc etc. so how do i go about doing both, being nice, but with ****y and teasing?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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speakeasy

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You can't use C+F on girls that are insecure and have fragile egos. The purpose of C+F is to demonstrate higher value to a girl who might otherwise think she is above you, for example if you are an average guy trying to game an HB9, you are demonstrating higher value by being C and making her laugh by using F and if you are busting on her, showing that you aren't intimidated by her beauty.

But if you use this on a girl who is insecure, the results are probably going to backfire. The lower her looks/self-esteem are on the scale, the more "niceguyish" you can be.

FYI- there's a difference between being "mean" and being C+F. You aren't aiming to be mean, you're aiming to be confident, not afraid to bust on her a bit, but at the same time be funny and flirtateous. Mean leaves out the latter two.
 

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Dude, you don't want to have the "mean thing" down.

Do a search for threads with the title nice guy in them... there have been a couple in the last few days.
 

Max Power

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foomee said:
i've got the whole mean thing down
There's a "mean thing."

Negs are supposedly only good on HB8.5 plus and in moderation.
 

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That "mean thing" is definitely something that you don't want. I was gaming this chic at one point, with a very fragile ego i might add, my naturally sarcastic nature got me that "mean" title. I found out later she took every C+F & sarcastic comment (no matter what the subject was) as a personal attack directed towards her, which brought things to a halt quite quick.

You have to make a judgment call on when you think the C+F isn't having the desired effect and change the way you handle yourself, it's not what the comment was meant to convey, it's all about how it's received, and if the comments are not received in a manner which will provoke the desired effect, more is definitely not better. Try not to bust on her so much, but like speakeasy said, you have to be funny and flirtatious when being C+F, if she still thinks its mean, cut back a little more, but don't stop busting on her.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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foomee

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I've got a lot of the C+F down, but how do you go about turning it flirtatious? I bust her on a lot of silly little things, she laughs and says "I hate you", but I know it's a good way. How do you go about escalating it into a flirting type or even complimenting her?
 

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RE: Why are you being mean?

I am new the DJ lifestyle, but based on my approaches and field tests, here's what I find works:

I am pretty witty and somewhat sarcastic by my nature (maybe just a touch cynical when it comes to women). If I am being my usual self, USUALLY it's good for a genuine laugh, though I have gotten the "Why are you being mean to me" question. If that question arises, it usually means I didn't smile/smirk/wink during a comment and she takes it seriously. My recovery?

"Hey, don't take me so seriously, I don't want the responsibility."

For me, that statement works like a charm.
1) It puts her insecurities on her, NOT me.
2) Shows that it's all in fun and I am having fun WITH HER.

It's almost always an instant smile and laugh for me. I need to get better and not letting it get to that point, though.
 

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If they complain about you being mean, say 'you love it.' Their next response will tell you everything you need to know.
 
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