"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I consider myself to be a fairly shy individual, and lately I've been having problems making the jump to getting a girl's number or asking her out on a date.

It might be a self-esteem thing, but I'm just lost as to how to get from the chit-chat stage, to the do-you-want-to-get-together sometime stage.

Do any of you guys have tips on how to further a simple conversation into a possible hook-up? I'm tired of missed opportunities, and I want to know how you pros get to where you want to be:D
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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cloudnine said:
I consider myself to be a fairly shy individual, and lately I've been having problems making the jump to getting a girl's number or asking her out on a date.

It might be a self-esteem thing, but I'm just lost as to how to get from the chit-chat stage, to the do-you-want-to-get-together sometime stage.

Do any of you guys have tips on how to further a simple conversation into a possible hook-up? I'm tired of missed opportunities, and I want to know how you pros get to where you want to be:D
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Coming from a former (and at times, still current) shy individual with that same problem, let me tell you the simplest piece of advice I can give you that helped me TREMENDOUSLY.

Ready?

Just do it.

You know that instant you want to say something and it's on the tip of your tongue, yet you wait a second for some reason and then it's gone, or the moment seems passed?

Well, when you get that feeling, just ask. Could be something as simple as "hey, want to go grab lunch?" or a bit more bold of "I'm picking you up for dinner on Friday."

Just go for it.
 
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I agree. Dig deep inside you, don't worry about getting turned down and do it. My reasoning? I always hated it when I had the chance to make a move and never did it. I HATED IT. So if you feel her do it. At least you won't regret not making a move.
 
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agreed with soontobeDJ... just go for it. Rejection is always better than regret
 
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Balls are vital to a DJ's arsenal. Grow them or at least make it look like you've grown them for now.

One thing to remember that going from harmless chit chat to, "so hey i think we should get together sometime, let me get your number" is NOT weird. Wusses think that saying something like this is weird. Why? Because they don't have balls. They think they come off as shallow a-holes. FALSE. Grow some balls, grow up and stop being a ***** (not directed at the OP).

Remember that ladies just like us love and want sex. Just like us, they talk to the opposite sex in hopes of great sex. The only difference is that most females want us to take the initiative. The men who are up for the challenge will always take the cake, while those who stand in the back afraid to speak up will always take a night with just their hand and themselves.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Great advice guys, but I guess you can't teach balls, you can only grow them.

I'm headed to a university residence for a couple nights next week, so if I can't get anything going there, I do not know what it will take :D
 
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