I believe he means regular therapist. There's no such thing as 'sinner therapist'. That's just a construct of your psychosis. See a shrink and take some meds Luke.Luke Skywalker said:recommending that I see a sinner therapist
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
I believe he means regular therapist. There's no such thing as 'sinner therapist'. That's just a construct of your psychosis. See a shrink and take some meds Luke.Luke Skywalker said:recommending that I see a sinner therapist
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
There is no statement that I'm using a fleshlight, that I'm wacking off to porn, or any fantasies on those statements. There is no definate plan or plot to cheat with any particular woman sexually. However, there is a moral grey on emotional (i.e. talking to other girls, flirting with them, taking them out to the cinema, listing presentations, etc....)Darth said:Oh, really Luke? Because I could have sworn you posted something like this 2 days ago, with the title "How to successfully cheat on my girlfriend."
Do you deny that?
This board brings out my dark side because virtually most posters on here are already in the darkness on issues of sexual morality. The side that was out in November, 2006 in full force, but has been a dormant ever since that time, but limited expression is allowed on here to see how it resonates with other reprobate minds.Darth said:Read what you wrote there, and tell me if that sounds like something a Christian would say.
Yeah, let me tell you what I think about that idea.Darth said:And we're not trolling, we're serious. Get help. See a psychologist or a doctor, or something.
Like the Joker in Batman?mothballs said:Luke, you're a depraved psychopath.
Like the attention-starved troll that you are.Luke Skywalker said:Like the Joker in Batman?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Luke Skywalker said:There is no statement that I'm using a fleshlight, that I'm wacking off to porn, or any fantasies on those statements.
SourceLuke Skywalker said:Gestures that I make towards her, and that she makes towards me, puts me into cloud 9. In the past I would use a fleshlight and imagine she was right next to me. We would have an imaginary nice time in bed together - she would be undertanding of my inexperience and I lost my virginity with her. I usually felt very nice after that imaginary fleshlight experience.
There was nothing said in THIS thread about any fleshlight.Alle_Gory said:
Alle Gore said:Haven't heard you talk about your UG in a while. Did you finish burying the body yet?
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Because enotalone is a chump factory. Here, people are telling you the truth, no sugarcoating.Luke Skywalker said:Well, it's unforunate I couldn't get a clear answer or perspective here about emotional cheatng to differentiate from the feedback on similar threads on enotalone. It looks like enotalone is the best site to get direct advice on something like relationship boundaries because at least my thread was taken seriously there, even though people didn't like the idea.
They are relevant, we've been giving advice, you're not taking it, and then your posting about the same AFCs topics. It's like you read what we write, then completely do the opposite. If you made the effort to change, you would know that we are right. If you had followed our advice in every other thread, you wouldn't have these problems.It's so stupid when people are too moronic to have an intelligent discussion and have to either call me a troll, bring up crap written on other threads that aren't relevant to this thread or just write replies that have nothing to do with 'emotional cheating' but are just berating to me.
Thats what chumps say when some jerk gets the girl they've been pining over.Hey, but maybe I'm to blame here. If I feel people on this site are reprobates, then that means I'm trying to feel better or less guilty by seeking moral advice from people that have no morals. Maybe there is emotional cheating and the feedback from the other board was dead-on.
Hence the purpose of non-exclusive relationships. If you don't want to cheat, but want other women too, don't be exclusive. It's only exclusive if you've said it is.Cheating is bad. Emotional cheating doesn't sound as bad as a kiss or a fvck, but it can still ruin your relationship even if the other person doesn't know about it. She can tell the difference in your vibe and emotion when you are thinking about other women. She doesn't necessarily know that you are emotionally cheating, but she'd sense that something is different, and that is enough to end the relationship. If you want to be with her, don't even think about cheating. Break up before you do something stupid.
People were quite harsh on enotalone in their replies. Their solution is that I should just break-up with the girl or tell her that I'm not mature enough to handle a relationship with one woman, see a therapist to deal with personality disorders or see if I have aspergers syndrome. While their response was not sugar-coated, I was canvassing here to see if there would be a different sort of responseCaptain said:Because enotalone is a chump factory. Here, people are telling you the truth, no sugarcoating.
I read what is written and do nothing because, for example, on advice of this particular issue, I haven't really seen a clear course of action to take.Captain said:They are relevant, we've been giving advice, you're not taking it, and then your posting about the same AFCs topics. It's like you read what we write, then completely do the opposite. If you made the effort to change, you would know that we are right. If you had followed our advice in every other thread, you wouldn't have these problems.
Maybe on another thread from a different author, but I'm not pining over any girl on this one.Captain said:Thats what chumps say when some jerk gets the girl they've been pining over.
I understand that, so I have to really re-negotiate the relationship if I'm not mature enough to have a totally committed relationship then? How exactly do I do that without coming across like I don't like her, because I really do.Captain said:Hence the purpose of non-exclusive relationships. If you don't want to cheat, but want other women too, don't be exclusive. It's only exclusive if you've said it is.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.