"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How to: Successful First Dates

Dante420

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This is a very important topic, so I think we should all share the tips we have. You got the number, made the plans and held down your aura and kept her interest over the days before you met up. Now the first date comes, and this will make or break your future with this girl and how things go.


So how do you show her a fun time?

I figure if this topic is important enough for people to make money of it (http://www.firstdatemastery.com/) than we should be discussing it.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I've found that hookah lounges work really well as first dates, even if they don't smoke at all. I have yet to have a date like that go bad...other than the time I my pants on fire from a coal ember, but it sure as hell was funny for both of us.

It's definitely something different, laid-back, and does show your conscious of other cultures, too.

I've yet to do a dinner/movie date and probably never will. They're lame.

Other than that, I know of a few places around where I live that I go.
 

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PHAT Rabbit said:
I just make sure I have fun.. and everything else falls into place.

Can you imagine a date where you're laughing the whole time and the girl you're with has a scour on her face? No.. so don't worry if you're attracting her or if you're talking about the right things or if she's enjoying whatever you have planned. Just ensure you have a fun night out.. by amusing yourself through whatever avenues necessary and she will have fun too. It's a cause and effect relationship - plain and simple.

The other thing I should mention.. is pick a good date. Dinner and a movie is a horrible date. Any sit down eating date is terrible. Coffee or tea are also bad dates. Good dates include -- amusement parks, action dates, going for a walk (not gay romantic walks.. think like walking around trendy downtown), going to the museum (bonus for children's museums), etc.. You need to do something that induces conversation so you can form a bond.. rather than something that discourages convo or makes the situation high in tension (like dinner).
In my area a trendy downtown or amusement park would be over 50 minutes away, is that not too long to drive on a first date?
 

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The key principles of a successful first date is:

- Dress well, smell nice, use C+F
- Use the "Time Compression" technique by bringing her to multiple places so she feels like she's known you longer than she actually has
- Bring her someplace exciting, avoid dinner and movie cliche
- Kino escalation
- Have a few backup questions or lines incase the conversation runs dry
- Attempt at least a kiss close

Anyone have anything to add to this preparation list?
 

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I'm doing an activity date this saturday. Me and this girl are going hiking up to a place with an ocean view. I hear that activity dates are good. Especially when there's some sort of reward at the end, like looking at a view of the city or ocean or something. And it also feels a bit like an adventure. Two people struggling to get to the top, exhausted, yet they finally made it together. Plenty of chances for kino, like if she looks tired, grab her hand and coax her along. Probably a lot easier to have rapport-building experience with something like that than sitting across the table having dinner.

And the added benefit is that it cost $0.00.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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