"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How to stop from RE- Friendzoned ?!

tigers2006

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Alright,
so this girl that I was friendzoned with called and asked "so when is your break, do you want to go out?" after I backed off for a bit. Before it was me doing all the pursuing. So my question is NOW, how do I go and not be friendzoned again by this girl?

Need advice ASAP. I know your thinking whoopty ****ing do another one-its, but I walked away from this one and it's someone I can walk away from again easily...
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Too easy. Walk away or take the chance. You won't be re-LJBFed if you present attractive qualities that she finds attractive, that's the only way.
 

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She isn't calling you for non-friendzone stuff.
 

dohta

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I don't think she's calling you because she doesn't think you're a friend anymore

but I'd say call her off a few times and increase the kino, that might help.
 

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"She isn't calling you for non-friendzone stuff."

Yeah I can see that also, but what I do know is that her interest increasing after I ignored her for a few weeks. What do you suggest I do, not go out with her?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Ace_McGregor

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DTB?? Are you kidding? You gotta give it a shot - What do you have to lose?

You need to work on being a challenge. I suggest getting a copy of Doc Love's Dating Dictionary. He talks about how to be a challenge.

If you noticed she came back at you when you backed off. You were unintentionally being a challenge, & you made her the pursuer.
 

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take her out, be a challanging, tease her , get her drunk, and game is over..


good luck
 

tigers2006

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Thanks for the advice boys
K here is a little update
I have been in communication with my ex and right now its looking like we might get back together... buttt she dumped me before
for this girl that friendzoned me before...Im going to take her out but I am going to ask her if she is interested in going on a date (key word date). I never asked her out before that is one reason why I might have gotten friendzoned. I have an urge to tell her the truth that I have been in contact with my ex and I am interested in her and wanted to see if she wanted to go out.
What do you think??:up:
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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