"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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How to spot a PLAYER...

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... who is most likely to toy around with your emotions and feel pleasure for seeing men get controlled and writhe in pain...

Any signs to watchout for? The way she dresses? The way she talks? body language? what?

If there are, how many should she manifest to be considered a player?

The DJB talks about a "don juan" being "in control"... being the "prized one", etc...

But once you fall into the trap of a player, how can you be in control? Of course, you need to avoid the trap... but how do you detect traps?

Thanks... ;)
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Things to watch for:

She will tell you that "Even though you picked her up, it her right to choose when and why you become her BF."

She will not say how many guys she is dating right now and will claim its her right to keep an eye out for the best possible guy. I.E. she is always in the market.

She only enjoys going out on expensive dates.

She talks about what other guys do for her.

She tries to get you to be her errand boy.

She flirts with you in such away as to make you think that sex is immenent but suprise its not. If she is a real b!tch she will then try to make you feel as if you are expecting to much.

When you question her actions she gets angry and freaks out on you.

Tells you your friends have to go. Your friends tell you she has to go. If she can't like your friends or at least be good to them, how will she ever like you.

Uses sex as a tool of control and has no problem using it to "punish" you after a fight.

She acts like the world should kiss her feet and walks around like royalty.

She tries to talk down to you, as if she is the dominate one in nature.

But the best advice on how to spot one is this. If deep down, you know that little voice that tells you something is up but you ignore it anyway. And suprise that "little voice" turned out to be right. In other words if your instinct tells you she is a cold hearted man with tits then its probably best to NEXT her ASAP. Remember you have to protect your heart.

-Grey Fox
 

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I wouldn't care about the signs. The most important thing is to be on top of her no matter the situation. I went out with a wing man tonight and I almost got a few ladies to come **** but my wing man got drunk, puked, and what not. I'm a little disappointed cuz I could've gotten some pootang tonight and the way things turned out I had to take my wingman home and jerk off to ****ing porn. God I hate porn :)
 
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Hahahaha, grey fox, it looks like you have a lot of knowledge about these kind of women.

These kind of women aren't callled 'players' they are callled 'hors'!

The easiest tip-off is their dress and how they talk - look at their mindset - girls that act like hors think like hors, look like hors and talk like hors!
 

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The easiest tip-off is their dress and how they talk
But... what if she dresses up (and talks and acts) like a dork//geek//nerd... or a child (at age 19)? Does that mean she's harmless?

- still interested in beyblade, yugi oh, pokemon, etc... At the same time, a hardcore anime fan. I'm not saying that anime (there is porno anime) is only for kids... but beyblade, yugioh and pokemon... :p

- still gets lost in her area. As in I know more streets and bus routes in her area even if I live far from her place.

- Totally shut out of politics and religion. Shuts up when thats the topic and just nods her head.

- Doesnt wear any makeup, totally out of fashion compared to other chicks, no fancy nails, simple low profile clothes. When I told her her jeans is too high (I swear it kinda "divides" her body in half) and if she can pull it down a bit, she thinks its fine.

- Uncomfortable in parties, havent been to bars, few friends...

- Spends most of her time at home... drawing or watching anime or reading manga comics.

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Is this a harmless childish chick? Or is this a master "hor"?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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this is by Arthur Gordon:

The Three Types of Women: The Ho, The Freak and the Good Girl



"Once you have the ability to discern what a woman's true personal core consists
of, you know on what basis to interact with her. This is the root to handling a woman to
your satisfaction - knowing her basic type before you get involved. If you don't realize
her true type, you automatically are at a disadvantage in your involvement with her - you are off-base and unable to properly evaluate her actions according to her true type.

Here is an example of why this is so fundamentally important. If you are
involved with a woman who has a penchant for being flirtatious with other men there are completely different reasons for her being that way, depending on her basic type. If she is a Ho, she's being flirtatious with the idea of making some money in mind. If she's a Freak, it's because she desires to "play," or to reassure herself as to her desirability. If she's a Good Girl, she could be attempting to arouse in you feelings of jealousy, which will reassure her that you care for her. If you show jealousy to a Good Girl, she feels more yours, more secure in your relationship. If you show jealousy to a freak, it shows her that she has you under control, and weakens your control over her.

And if you are the one being flirted with, not being able to discern the type of
woman flirting with you could have negative ramifications. If you read into a Good Girl's
flirtation that you can "get something done" with her, if you mistake her for a Freak and think she actually, if persuaded properly, will have
sex with you, you will be badly disappointed when she draws a line she will not
cross with you as far as intimacy goes. If you react to a Freak's flirtations thinking she is a Good Girl, you will be considered "too serious" for her, or not sexually adventurous enough and she is turned off. And if you don't realize a Ho is a Ho, and her flirtations with you are to get you to spend your money, and not because of you per se, you run the risk of getting your feelings hurt-along with your wallet."

So, you can see the importance of being correct with your observations. Your
proper diagnosis of a girl's true basic type could prove as beneficial to your mental health as a doctor's proper diagnosis to your physical well-being.
Properly determining a girl's basic type is possible by thorough knowledge of
each type's main characteristics, and mentally evaluating a woman much the same way as a baseball scout would evaluate a prospect for the team; close observation of not only
major or overt actions but also small details, habits, idiosyncrasies and mindset exhibited.
Through continued practice and experience, you will be able to "scout out" good, hot
prospects for your team."

************

It's hard to leave a point not at least detailed enough that it makes
some type of mutha ****in sense
Some of
this stuff is like the Mercedes-Benz safety innovations - too important to keep under
patent. Such a simple clarification in your mind as to what type of girl you are dealing
with - Ho, Freak or Good Girl - makes all the difference in the world sometimes between
great success or abject failure. Not distinguishing this is the number one cause of mutha ****a’s
getting the "you're too nice for me"

Which TYPE of Biatch are you ****ing with?

************

When you look to get married, you are not going to retire from the battle of the
sexes; you are going to select your lifelong opponent!
Woe to the man who loses control of the woman after married. To those who
are reading this and have already felt the pain of the legal dissolution of an emotional
commitment -divorce- you have my heartfelt sympathy, but too bad ya shoulda known.

They weren't inadequate - they were just simply dealing with a Freak or a Ho
instead of a Good Girl! And some *****es will hide the type they know they are on purpose!
Learn the details of the Three Basic Types, and make sure You are not
the one played for a foo…!

Let's detail the Three Basic Types of Women.

It is absolutely necessary to know the type of a woman - Ho, Freak, or Good
Girl - you are targeting for your pimping attention.

No woman is 100 % of any one type - for example, you can catch a Good Girl's
attention with a display of wealth (that’s your clout), but her bottom line is that she's at least going to have to feel she can grow to love you over time, because a Good Girl will not marry you just for your money. But a Good Girl is the type that will marry you even if you don't have anything but love for her. This is the type of girl that gives a man inspiration to achieve in life; she makes it worth going out into the world for, and enjoyable to come home to.

If a man mistakes her for a Freak, whose bottom line is the new and exciting,
usually sexual experience; the type to whom the worst fate imaginable is to be bored - if
he misplays the Good Girl because he's been told that all women are the same, or, worse, he hasn't been told that they are NOT all the same and in exactly what way are they different - and just focuses on her sexually, then eventually his money is not going to be enough to keep her; finding love is a Good Girl's bottom line.

A Ho may marry a man for his money (a lot of Hoes have only one client - their
husband!) and even if he is old and frail and unable to perform sexually, she will not
jeopardize her position for mere sexual satisfaction by cheating on him; the Ho's bottom
line is wealth and/or status. A lot of cheerleaders in high school are hoes-in-training,
selling out to the top athlete in order to gain the currency of popularity.
And of course we here on the pn know about the common ordinary street ho and her motivations.
A freak is where we want to put our aspiring pimpin attention to!
A Freak may be attracted to a wealthy man, or a man who shows a lot of clout and even if he is, Bling Bling, and she is married to him, she still would risk getting
divorced because of the excitement of having sex with the bodyguard under a boardwalk
pier. To a Freak, the new and exciting, usually sexual, is her bottom line. That's why
boredom is so intolerable to this type girl, and she will risk danger to experience the
taboo or forbidden simply because to her it's exciting, and "something to do".
But even Freaks have a sense of convention and a female desire for security -
remember, no ***** is 100 % of any type - it is the bottom-line choices that she makes that shows her true type.


"About the age of twenty-five or so, a Freak will start to look for someone to
settle down with. She almost always desires a "symp" (a male who allows the woman to
be dominant mentally), not a man, because a symp will allow her to continue her freak
way of constantly seeking male attention. This explains why you see beautiful girls
married to average-looking guys - she can easily control him - she can easily control him, and therefore the relationship, by making him feel his ass
is "lucky" to have her because other beauty. She may not necessarily have sex with
another man after she's married, but neither she nor that po..fool, can ever be truly sure
she won't. This is the type that is susceptible to the office or work affair. Over a period of time the nature of the Freak and her actions have a corrosive effect on the male's ego. If you do divorce the biatch, your prenuptial may keep your wallet intact, but it does nothing for the damage to your ego and pride. If you have money and are going to allow a woman to marry you for it, better a Ho than a Freak. Both choices, however, are bad.

"But, lots of times guys are willing to sacrifice their pride and control over the
woman they **** with in order to obtain one that is extremely beautiful and attractive. Not us mutha ****a’s of course!
This is a personal decision a male must make for himself. A Freak is capable of
innocently, by her nature, conducting herself with other men in a way that is
borderline "come-on". In other words, she is capable of giving off the impression to other
men that, although she is with you, she is still available sexually to them if the right
buttons are pushed. Again, she may not actually be available, but her nature requires her to give that impression in order to receive the level of male attention she needs to verify her desirability.

"Freaks are sometimes able to learn Ho behavior, but it is against basic type and
usually results in psychological conflict. Eventually she may cease from actually giving
access to her sex for money, but is comfortable with such things as posing naked for
photography, or doing strip routines in nightclubs, things that are sexually provocative
but do not require her to actually have impersonal sex for money. Girls who are
"****teasers" are Freaks. She might "give it up", she might not. How much do you want
her and what are you willing to do for it to reaffirm her desirability is her criteria for
deciding.

"That attitude is at the crux of the Freak's nature - her need for personal
recognition and a constant reaffirmation other femininity.
When you attempt to get more than what a Freak gives sexually, by trying to turn the
relationship into a deep emotional commitment, not only will you be unsuccessful, but
also you will spoil the sex you're getting, because it will be time for her to move on and
find someone else to "fall in love" with. Or worse, she will allow you to get deeply
emotionally involved so that she can enjoy the thrill of going through the wedding
process, itself something new and exciting "to do". Unfortunately, lots of times when this
particular new thrill wears off, so does the marriage."
 
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One of the main sources of frustration men have with women is one they create
for themselves by treating a woman against type. If, early in the interaction, you treat a
Freak as a Good Girl, a woman who wants love and loyalty, that's when you get the
brush-off as "a nice guy" or "too serious" or "I just want to be friends". It wasn't that you
were too nice, it was that you were too nice with the wrong type girl! Your approach
would have worked perfectly with a Good Girl, who herself wanted a nice guy who was
serious.

Beware of any advice that does not specifically address the basic types of
women in how you approach them. Not all women are the same, so all techniques do not
work the same on all women! Unless the technique and strategy you are being told about is specifically directed toward one of the three types of women, how can it be guaranteed to be effective?

It's amazing how easily handling women becomes if you know her true basic
type. Like sports, a solid grounding in the fundamentals will get you results if you learn
the right techniques to make you effective. This is why we here at pn network gotta get our skilz together and learn all that we can about handling *****es and reversing the game
 

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Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
Hahahaha, grey fox, it looks like you have a lot of knowledge about these kind of women.

These kind of women aren't callled 'players' they are callled 'hors'!

The easiest tip-off is their dress and how they talk - look at their mindset - girls that act like hors think like hors, look like hors and talk like hors!
No they are not.

H0rs = wh0res which are women taking money for sex.


Players = girls that know the game and how to use men just like we use women.
 
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Oh lastly, I am a player. Your using the word Player for a female is insulting to me and all the other players out there.

Women are not to be called Players. That is a man's term!

Good girl, Freak or ho.

What your talking about is the FREAK. Women who just wanna **** and get mens attention.

At the least call em Playerettes so your acknowledging the feminine.

Also a man shouldn't be writhing in pain over a freak. Here is something else by the above author:


Chapter Five: Controlling YOUR Mind

Time for one of those mental imaging exercises again. Didn’t think I’d let you get away without one, did you?
Stand up straight, nothing within a circular radius of say 3-4 feet. Stand straight and still, holding this book up in front of you to be able to read to see what you are going to do next.
Now, take a step to your left, a wide enough step that you are standing beside where you were standing, as if you are standing next to your twin.
Now, start to shake and gyrate and swivel and vibrate and shimmy in a any manner that so strikes you, for about 20-30 seconds, long enough to have to take a breath when you are done. Then stop. Stand still once again.
Now, which person are you to the outside observer? Are you the one standing there still, or are you the one shimmying and gyrating and vibrating?
The you doing it or the you not doing it is the same person literally standing right next to himself, so which are you?
The answer? The one you choose to be. You have both inside you.
“You rise as high as your dominant aspiration; you descend to your lowest level of your concept of yourself.”
When I was young, before I developed the mental hardness to keep it in check, I was a very jealous type guy. I would be jealous if I thought the girl I was seeing was giving up the play to another guy. It would be an assault on my ego. I remember spying on and following once or twice a girl if I wasn’t sure about her faithfulness.
But when I realized the truth of the Three different Types of Women, these feelings literally vanished overnight, because I realized the logic of their misplacement. All the girls that I had the intense jealous feelings about were Freaks by definition, I realized in retrospect. And they had gotten under my skin, because I was trying to hit a moving target with my misplaced feelings of love that I was looking for from a woman in those young mentally tender years.
But I grew up out of that.
If you can relate to the mental state that I describe above at this point as you read this, then stop, put the book back in the envelope and mail it back to me so I can send you your money back, because where we are about to go is no place for that state of mind.
I don’t say where we are about to go in the discussion is no place for you, just no place for that state of mind.
On second, thought, don’t mail it back; just put it away somewhere for a few months or few years until your level of maturity in dealing with Freaks has improved. Because on this level you must be able to be free enough to be convincing, and that means believing at least somewhat inwardly that down deep you really don’t give a damn if the ***** you are ****ing with is ****ing someone else if you know she’s a Freak.
O.P.P. Other People’s *****. You will, as that catchy little rap jingle from a few years back so nicely puts it, be “splitting and co-hitting that”. (Like I said, urban music influence in attitude is beneficial to the proper attitude to “**** with these *****es”.)
Yes, you will be sharing the ***** with someone else, at some point, if you are in the early stages of ****ing with a Freak. That is why you must maintain ironclad control over your mind throughout this breaking-in process. First one to blink – acknowledge feelings and want exclusivity in sex – loses. And so to play this game you have to be able to control the natural feelings of jealousy which arise in a man over his possession - in this case a woman.
(This is an amplification of the foundation I laid in Book One. But if you are here reading this then you anticipate venturing into deeper waters. I just want to make sure you don’t end up like O.J. looking through the window while his freaky ex-wife was giving a ******* to a man on the living room couch while the kids were upstairs. I’m not saying I condone what O.J. did, if indeed he did kill Nicole but I understand it. Nicole was a Freak and it may have driven him over the edge. With my Strategy, there is no edge to drive over, because if you know up front that the girl is a Freak, then you automatically place your heart on lock.)
Like I was saying, I don’t want you mentally unable to concentrate at the office the next day after she didn’t call you all night, like she was supposed to, and when you broke down and called her, you got the machine, and her cell phone and pager and fax and palm pilot and every other electronic device of communication she had was shut off.
“I wonder what she’s doing?!” Stupid, she’s getting ****ed! What is the question? She blew you off and didn’t want to be disturbed! (Just like you are going to have some Freak doing to some guy pretty soon.)
So be prepared for it, anticipate it; Arthur Gordon told you it would be so, so here it is. You shall have a serene smile on your lips, and it’s okay if it is a little tight, after all, you do like being with the *****, but you can smile because you realize how predictable the behavior of a Freak is, and you also realize that she has shot her best shot. She has nothing else to use to attempt to gain the upper hand in your relationship.
She is a horse you found in the wild and brought back to your ranch to put a saddle on. She let you ride her once or twice, but now she’s trying to throw off the saddle and buck you off. Are you going to break that filly in, or are you going to be a “dude”, an Easterner staying in the West, a dandy? It’s a hard buck to take the next morning, knowing the ***** was out ****ing someone else the night before. Damn. She probably sucked his ****, too…
“You rise to your most dominant aspiration…you descend to your lowest level of your concept of yourself…”
If you have inadequacies real or imagined, they come to the surface when that happens. If you KNOW through the fact that you are following an Advanced Strategy that you HAVE no inadequacies, and you will end up looking better by comparison after she has sex with another guy once she’s had you, then you have a different attitude about the (yawn) predictable fact that the ***** spread her legs. Damn, ain’t that what you like about her? That she’s giving that **** up? Guess what? She likes that about herself, thinking she’s slick and in control because she is deciding what to do with the ***** at the moment…
…but you are going to take that all away in the next few months, oh yeah, you are going to shut that **** down. The “Invade” has arrived. Save the feeling of first morning you knew she was with someone else so you can use it to fuel your mental enjoyment when you are with someone else and she knows it and accepts it and wants to give it to you even more.
Or if you create the alternate reality for her that you are only seeing her while you are banging some other ***** into oblivion.
And you step into that alternate reality - some call it lying, but I don’t feel you can lie to a liar. So with a Freak, if the situation calls for it, I will not let her know I’m seeing someone else and still have the moral high ground because in her mind she” did it” last with someone else before you got serious.
The mental conflict for the Freak begins when you don’t react the way she anticipates when she knows that she was with someone else. She then feels that your relationship is now a “relationship” and she feels bad that she slept with someone else and you were so understanding. You are more than understanding. You give her another oxytocin release by having sex with her and getting her to talk about her having sex with the other guy. When she gets emotional and doesn’t want to talk about other guys anymore that she had sex with in the past, she’s starting the changeover, into a relationship, and you are gaining control of the emotional lever that she thinks she is becoming a Good Girl.

**********sorry gotta end it*****************

You can find his stuff at :

www.howtogetallthegirlsyouwant.com I believe.
 
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Originally posted by Kineti[C]harm
No they are not.

H0rs = wh0res which are women taking money for sex.


Players = girls that know the game and how to use men just like we use women.
I disagree Kinetic. You are applying what is a masculine term for men who get alot of women to a female.

I do not call em hor's cause they don't charge for it...I think the above author has a good name for em.

But playerette's I think would fit for this place. I think the guys who come here are so beaten down by women that they are used to women being the dominante ones and calling them by dominante masculine terms.

But you start the de-programming by stripping away the false labels.

I am a player. I just had sex with one woman last night and at 5:00am, then at 6am I took a shower and went to another womans house and did her at 7:15am...it's now 9:45am and Im at home alone. (oh yeah I checked the times cause I woke up from a dream and at the other ones she has this big assed clock next to the bed)

This is what player does. He plays lots of women.

Why?

Because we can! And We Enjoy it! Why not I am turning 45 in less than 24 hours and I have the women to celibrate it with...

Women do not have sex with someone and then get up and take a shower and go sleep with another man within 2 hours. The will wait sometimes a whole day before mating again.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Originally posted by Player_Supreme
Women do not have sex with someone and then get up and take a shower and go sleep with another man within 2 hours. The will wait sometimes a whole day before mating again.
Some do actually :)
 

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I read that really long post and here's what I understood of it...

Good girl = women who search for true serious love. They like "nice guys".

Freak = women who want sex and excitement.

Hor = women who want money.

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Correct? But I'm a bit sketchy on the difference between a freak and a hor... Don't hors like sex and excitement in their lives too? What seperates a freak from a hor?

And what is the most dangerous one?
 
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Originally posted by Kineti[C]harm
Some do actually :)
yeah, aint that the truth brudah! I've been leaving right before some fools were coming through the same front door.

But that doesn't make the ho a player...just a freak, or slut which is the female version of a male player.

I think some gay dudes on this site are calling a player a man hor or some gay stuff like that...now that's weak and is like calling a man a weinch.

Now talk about buying into the wrong thing!
 

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well...there are ones that exist that arent players, yet have all those characteristics of a player.

such as the ones who place themselves far above the pedestal
 

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Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
Hahahaha, grey fox, it looks like you have a lot of knowledge about these kind of women.

These kind of women aren't callled 'players' they are callled 'hors'!

The easiest tip-off is their dress and how they talk - look at their mindset - girls that act like hors think like hors, look like hors and talk like hors!
I learned it once the hard way, but only once.

-Grey Fox
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Although it'd be better if he wasn't talking about the same damn chick as in his first thread...

DROP THE B!TCH ALREADY! :rolleyes:
 
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