timmylivingalie
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What do you say when a chic starts whining about her ex boyfriend/hubby was mean to her, cheated on her or whatever?
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
How to respond when chic talks about ex?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
sodbuster
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Depends on what you are looking for... a lay or information. If you shut up and listen, a woman will tell you everything about herself... and you have a heads up on whether or not to keep her.
CrashOverRide
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sodbuster said:
^^^^ Very true.... A lot of time women will divulge information about your ex... just listen but do not inquire... Then just talk about anything else. You want the woman to be focused on you and not be distracted by an ex flame.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
timmylivingalie
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I kind of lean toward that it is a test and they want to see if you will allow them to whine to you.john1234 said:
BlackEricNorthman
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I like to do two things:
1)Never sympathize with the girl about her negative feelings toward the ex. You know those guys who go "Oh James cheated on Sarah? That guy is a a$$hole she can do better" or "I don't understand what why he treats you this way, he's a jerk". Yeah don't be that guy. That sympathetic route is where a lot of guys fail because they are attempting to show the girl that "hey you should like me because I'm nothing like the old guy". She liked something about the guy apparently so agreeing to bash him just put more spotlight on him and you don't want that.
2)Divert/Steer the conversation in your favor. You want to really stand out in her mind, then give her a image she can sink her teeth into. Try this; if the girl says something like
GIRL: "My ex was so domineering. He told me how to dress when we went out, and wouldn't let me hang out with his friends because he thought they would hit on me."
ME: "Yeah, I could see why he would do that. I would totally do that too, except I'd have you dress like a slutty sexy bunny, and bring me cookies and beer in bed while I watch tv."
GIRL: "Why would I want to do that?"
ME: "You're the one that likes taking orders, maybe you just haven't been given the right ones yet."
You see with the diversion option you play off what she is saying in a fun positive sexual way, while simultaneously mentally piquing her interest in you. She brings up something negative, you twist the negativity into your favor. It takes the attention off the ex, puts the spotlight on you, changes the conversation to something kinky and lighthearted and opens up a new course of convo to play off of. I hope that helps.
1)Never sympathize with the girl about her negative feelings toward the ex. You know those guys who go "Oh James cheated on Sarah? That guy is a a$$hole she can do better" or "I don't understand what why he treats you this way, he's a jerk". Yeah don't be that guy. That sympathetic route is where a lot of guys fail because they are attempting to show the girl that "hey you should like me because I'm nothing like the old guy". She liked something about the guy apparently so agreeing to bash him just put more spotlight on him and you don't want that.
2)Divert/Steer the conversation in your favor. You want to really stand out in her mind, then give her a image she can sink her teeth into. Try this; if the girl says something like
GIRL: "My ex was so domineering. He told me how to dress when we went out, and wouldn't let me hang out with his friends because he thought they would hit on me."
ME: "Yeah, I could see why he would do that. I would totally do that too, except I'd have you dress like a slutty sexy bunny, and bring me cookies and beer in bed while I watch tv."
GIRL: "Why would I want to do that?"
ME: "You're the one that likes taking orders, maybe you just haven't been given the right ones yet."
You see with the diversion option you play off what she is saying in a fun positive sexual way, while simultaneously mentally piquing her interest in you. She brings up something negative, you twist the negativity into your favor. It takes the attention off the ex, puts the spotlight on you, changes the conversation to something kinky and lighthearted and opens up a new course of convo to play off of. I hope that helps.
Married Buried
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ecko280 said:
What if a girl you are banging suddenly says "I am trying not to contact my ex"?
alphamailman
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I just change the subject and do the Dougie.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
scrouds
Master Don Juan
I tell her to switch positions, then shove it in her butt. Then I'd learn how to fuuck women, because if they're thinking about calling their ex while you're banging them, you really suck. Bad.Malice said: