"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How to recover from looking clingy

urbytown

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I've been on a couple of dates with a girl, things seem to be going okay (lots of kino when we've had drink...not so much sober). Anyway, I missed a call from her and called her back twice, then texted... was that too much / clingy?

Any way to recover now, or should I just wait for her to make next move / next her?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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GS750

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two attempts at contact (call or text) and drop it. She'll contact you if she's interested.
 

sylvester the cat

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NOt as clingy as going through the entire phone book for one girl's address and then showing up at her door unanounced. Now THAT's clingy.

Don't be that guy, OP.
 

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That's not bad. Just keep your cool. She reached out and you reached back normally. Now just sit back and wait.
 

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I have had up and down situations where I probably come off too clingy. Unfortunately I also have had instances where not initiating meetups results in the women going away forever - plenty of dating options here for women and is very common.

The easiest way to mitigate this is to listen to the timeless advice given many times here. But for the sake of understanding, here is what I am doing that seems to be working. First, I do my own thing for most of the week. I am currently learning a new language and educating myself on investing ( read the stock thread). Throw in working out, and thats a full week. On weekends, I allow one night for women if I feel like, and one for friends. NEVER put your social circles on the back burner for women.

For women, I am using night game to try and get numbers, and the dating web sites and talking to multiple women during the week. I am chatting with a bunch, planning a few dates with a few of them. But last night I was offered a date by a 34 year old, but not really my thing so I just stayed in.

With all of this going on, I really don't have the inclination to be clingy - it works wonders. The women I am talking to are basically begging to hang out.

What should you do? Make your life busy in a way that makes you feel like you need to progress towards something. Allocate time to date, and to make new friends and hang out with your current friends. unfortunately time flys when you do this ****!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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urbytown

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Thanks all!

Great advice Synergy, I'll keep myself a little busier, and stop making myself too available.
 
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