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How to Pick Up Women at a Dinner Party

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Exactly as it sounds. As some of you may know, I am a musician on the side to my Computer Science career.

I’m working a dinner party with my band tonight. It’s for a fitness company. The women there are bad af, in great shape and with some big ass titties. I want to fvck, great place to meet a #FitChick. Especially since I have some degree of social proof as a musician there, yeah?

I’ve been laid from parties like this before, but that was because the women sent me very strong choosing signals and I already knew how to escalate and close.

I’ve also been laid from Cold Approach, but I feel that this situation is a little different. I can’t just go direct a ton, right?

I want to be able to control my destiny and approach whoever I want.

So, SS, I’m essentially clueless. How do I do this, approach women from the party? Direct? Indirect? And if Indirect, how do I show intent? How do I close?

I’m completely clueless in this aspect. If y’all SS geniuses could tell me how to handle this situation, it would be amazing. I want to be able to approach any woman that I want.
 
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Are you? If so, should focus on that, purpose before women, being distracted by women when you should be purposing is just desperate.

After the fact, sure, but understand why you are there; seeking the approval of who hired you would be a good start.

I have always found Musicians get attention, so act upon what you receive, that is all, with approval of some sort
 

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A dinner party is a form of social circle game for the attendees. Dinner parties and other private residence type parties can have single guys trying to work their network for social circle setups.

Your musician status can help you at these types of events. It's a situational alpha type thing. Women are more likely to get into your proximity and give good IOIs as compared to most other male attendees.
 

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A dinner party is a form of social circle game for the attendees. Dinner parties and other private residence type parties can have single guys trying to work their network for social circle setups.

Your musician status can help you at these types of events. It's a situational alpha type thing. Women are more likely to get into your proximity and give good IOIs as compared to most other male attendees.
+1

Social equity is huge. Low social equity to take a flame thrower through your social circle or workplace. Be cool. Drop invites. Relate man to woman.
 

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During breaks in your set, circle through the Whole Group. Not just the hot chicks. While you are playing identify who the obvious BMOC is. If it is a Sole Proprietorship it is gonna be the owner...Let him introduce you around to the ladies. He will let you know who's who...He's also writing the check so don't ignore him...

If the women are dancing while you play, Call them out "lets give Tiffany and Chelsea a hand for keeping the dance floor HAWT!" They love the attention....
 

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Exactly as it sounds. As some of you may know, I am a musician on the side to my Computer Science career.

I’m working a dinner party with my band tonight. It’s for a fitness company. The women there are bad af, in great shape and with some big ass titties. I want to fvck, great place to meet a #FitChick. Especially since I have some degree of social proof as a musician there, yeah?

I’ve been laid from parties like this before, but that was because the women sent me very strong choosing signals and I already knew how to escalate and close.

I’ve also been laid from Cold Approach, but I feel that this situation is a little different. I can’t just go direct a ton, right?

I want to be able to control my destiny and approach whoever I want.

So, SS, I’m essentially clueless. How do I do this, approach women from the party? Direct? Indirect? And if Indirect, how do I show intent? How do I close?

I’m completely clueless in this aspect. If y’all SS geniuses could tell me how to handle this situation, it would be amazing. I want to be able to approach any woman that I want.
When I perform anywhere, there are a few HB5-6s who come to me and hit on me indirect.

Some guys make the mistake to be turned off and blow them off. Don't do that

Don't blow them off. Be nice to all of them. Make them laugh. Genuinely get to know them. Be curious. Tease around.

Introduce them to each other. Make a mini party w each other. Introduce other guys into the club.

Be that guy who merges sets. Soon enough the super hotties will start eye fvcking you.

When that happens. Just say "Do you come here often?" "Hey, what kinda music do you listen to"

Pull repeat. Have a good one Nick!

Party hard stay hydrated.
 

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A dinner party is a form of social circle game for the attendees. Dinner parties and other private residence type parties can have single guys trying to work their network for social circle setups.

Your musician status can help you at these types of events. It's a situational alpha type thing. Women are more likely to get into your proximity and give good IOIs as compared to most other male attendees.
+1

Social equity is huge. Low social equity to take a flame thrower through your social circle or workplace. Be cool. Drop invites. Relate man to woman.
Yeah, that’s what I thought too! It’s closer to social circle game than Cold Approach. So in this case I’d need to go more indirect.

How does that change the gaming “algorithm”, would you say? How do I show intent in this instance to avoid coming off as the platonic guy, and how do I go from approaching and talking to them throughout the night to pulling?
 

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During breaks in your set, circle through the Whole Group. Not just the hot chicks. While you are playing identify who the obvious BMOC is. If it is a Sole Proprietorship it is gonna be the owner...Let him introduce you around to the ladies. He will let you know who's who...He's also writing the check so don't ignore him...

If the women are dancing while you play, Call them out "lets give Tiffany and Chelsea a hand for keeping the dance floor HAWT!" They love the attention....
I like that. Great ideas, especially the last one haha. I’ll definitely give it a shot at the next dinner party that I work.
 

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Yeah, that’s what I thought too! It’s closer to social circle game than Cold Approach. So in this case I’d need to go more indirect.

How does that change the gaming “algorithm”, would you say? How do I show intent in this instance to avoid coming off as the platonic guy, and how do I go from approaching and talking to them throughout the night to pulling?
I know you have read Roosh from his pre-conversion era. You could use the GALNUC conversational framework, which is indirect but shows intent because in C, you do ask someone out.

If you are a musician at a dinner party and you get strong indicators of interest, you won't need to go that indirect. You'll need to escalate the interaction in some way, mainly through asking for a future date. Dinner parties usually won't lead to a same night lay because it is not the type of atmosphere that leads to a same night lay unless you venue change to a bar after the dinner party when you're done playing music.
 

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Yeah, that’s what I thought too! It’s closer to social circle game than Cold Approach. So in this case I’d need to go more indirect.

How does that change the gaming “algorithm”, would you say? How do I show intent in this instance to avoid coming off as the platonic guy, and how do I go from approaching and talking to them throughout the night to pulling?
Similar to what I said about direct/indirect. Noob can't get past AA. Intermediate hell is just not getting to the next level and inconsistent results. Difference in advance is to the degree you can go indirect direct. As in man to woman. I can go indirect and still be direct. The approach has to be man to woman. It shouldn't be a shock you have a ****. Direct in this scenario is a dhv because it shows a lack of social equity. In a large group be able to pick up but so subtle nobody else knows what's up. Discretion is key. Furthermore, the role play is between you and her. You two just get it. They (everybody else) just doesn't get it. Be cognizant of the room and spectators. Have single minded focus when making your move. Assume you have only a minute or so. Make good in short time. Run flash game.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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When I perform anywhere, there are a few HB5-6s who come to me and hit on me indirect.

Some guys make the mistake to be turned off and blow them off. Don't do that

Don't blow them off. Be nice to all of them. Make them laugh. Genuinely get to know them. Be curious. Tease around.

Introduce them to each other. Make a mini party w each other. Introduce other guys into the club.

Be that guy who merges sets. Soon enough the super hotties will start eye fvcking you.

When that happens. Just say "Do you come here often?" "Hey, what kinda music do you listen to"

Pull repeat. Have a good one Nick!

Party hard stay hydrated.
So basically, you just want to be an extroverted, social guy and interact with everyone at the party.

Then you have your conversations, direct indirect, and you work on pulling/closing the girls you want.

Sounds like an effective model to me!
 

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I know you have read Roosh from his pre-conversion era. You could use the GALNUC conversational framework, which is indirect but shows intent because in C, you do ask someone out.

If you are a musician at a dinner party and you get strong indicators of interest, you won't need to go that indirect. You'll need to escalate the interaction in some way, mainly through asking for a future date. Dinner parties usually won't lead to a same night lay because it is not the type of atmosphere that leads to a same night lay unless you venue change to a bar after the dinner party when you're done playing music.
In a Daygame Cold Approach, for instance, it makes a lot of sense to go direct. But other times, I feel that it makes more sense to go indirect. A dinner party being one of those.

I actually didn’t think of “C” in GALNUC showing intent. Though, like you said, it does show intent.

Direct Indirect as @DEEZEDBRAH mentioned can really help too.

So it seems that in situations where I want to go direct, the standard PUA methods can work. But in indirect cases(or even social circle), the standard Roosh conversational methods can be applied. Would you agree with that?
 

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Similar to what I said about direct/indirect. Noob can't get past AA. Intermediate hell is just not getting to the next level and inconsistent results. Difference in advance is to the degree you can go indirect direct. As in man to woman. I can go indirect and still be direct. The approach has to be man to woman. It shouldn't be a shock you have a ****. Direct in this scenario is a dhv because it shows a lack of social equity. In a large group be able to pick up but so subtle nobody else knows what's up. Discretion is key. Furthermore, the role play is between you and her. You two just get it. They (everybody else) just doesn't get it. Be cognizant of the room and spectators. Have single minded focus when making your move. Assume you have only a minute or so. Make good in short time. Run flash game.
I totally agree with the fact that if she doesn’t know you have a penis, you’re fvcked.

I’d say that AA isn’t too much of an issue for me anymore, luckily.

Sorry, I know we’ve talked about this before, but could you explain exactly how you implement Indirect Direct one more time?

I assume you mean showing intent through the subcomms and closing at the end(Roosh Method) like @SW15 said.
 

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I know you have read Roosh from his pre-conversion era. You could use the GALNUC conversational framework, which is indirect but shows intent because in C, you do ask someone out.

If you are a musician at a dinner party and you get strong indicators of interest, you won't need to go that indirect. You'll need to escalate the interaction in some way, mainly through asking for a future date. Dinner parties usually won't lead to a same night lay because it is not the type of atmosphere that leads to a same night lay unless you venue change to a bar after the dinner party when you're done playing music.
Additionally, another piece of advice from Roosh that speaks to me is using a “Statement of Intent” in your indirect approach before closing.

And Roosh himself says that both Direct and Indirect can work. They are both useful tools in your toolbox.
 

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But other times, I feel that it makes more sense to go indirect. A dinner party being one of those.
If you're a musician entertaining at a party, indirect would likely be better for purposes of plausible deniability.

Private residence parties are a place where dates can be obtained. People converse with each other and there can be a match in that room that night. Also, it can happen that someone mentions a friend, niece, daughter they know that could be a social circle setup.
 

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Exactly as it sounds. As some of you may know, I am a musician on the side to my Computer Science career.

I’m working a dinner party with my band tonight. It’s for a fitness company. The women there are bad af, in great shape and with some big ass titties. I want to fvck, great place to meet a #FitChick. Especially since I have some degree of social proof as a musician there, yeah?

I’ve been laid from parties like this before, but that was because the women sent me very strong choosing signals and I already knew how to escalate and close.

I’ve also been laid from Cold Approach, but I feel that this situation is a little different. I can’t just go direct a ton, right?

I want to be able to control my destiny and approach whoever I want.

So, SS, I’m essentially clueless. How do I do this, approach women from the party? Direct? Indirect? And if Indirect, how do I show intent? How do I close?

I’m completely clueless in this aspect. If y’all SS geniuses could tell me how to handle this situation, it would be amazing. I want to be able to approach any woman that I want.
When everyone is silent for a moment you should announce "last night I have sex. I like".
Then when they all open their mouths in horror, you add "she was a prostitute" and show them some photos.
 

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I totally agree with the fact that if she doesn’t know you have a penis, you’re fvcked.

I’d say that AA isn’t too much of an issue for me anymore, luckily.

Sorry, I know we’ve talked about this before, but could you explain exactly how you implement Indirect Direct one more time?

I assume you mean showing intent through the subcomms and closing at the end(Roosh Method) like @SW15 said.
@nicksaiz65 mate wuddup?

The AA reference was in general. Not you lulz. You been at it for ages.

Closing isn't entirely in your control. You can just dhv and put your intent forward. Comply or bye. Unlike modern women wanting their .125% high value 500k husband after the CC. Men are aware there's two parties involved.



This isn't the path in social circle, workplace, your gig obviously.

Indirect/direct as in invade territory. Take up space. JB referred to man to woman. 3 feet is comfort zone. Get in there. Does she back up. You are being forward without actually being vulgar or obnoxious. Subcommunication is king. You essentially are APEing masculinity and unapologetic about it. Look over the old msgs.
 

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@nicksaiz65 mate, you are in a great situation. You are young. You got youth on your side. You are in or entering into a great industry. You are aware of female nature particularly in the western world and are acting accordingly. After the absolute ****ery the past two years, definitely lean into your purpose and life path.

Think indirect/ direct as not being so much black or white. How would you approach indirect but your body language and subtext would demonstrate you want to smash? Man to woman. Unapologetic. You want discretion. At the same time you aren't walking on ****ing egg shells.

Definitely get girls but focus on your purpose. Getting girls is sport. At that same time women particularly modern women are acting liability not an asset. With your current background learn crypto. Invest. Stack. The world you are competing is far harder than the one me and @SW15 came up in or learned game in (contrary to the married boomers on YouTube shilling rubbish). The game hasn't even been harder but the competition couldn't be any weaker. Men don't approach in aggregate never mind git game. Most guys are soy and low T. The loudest guys on YouTube are playing house and pedaling ebooks. No receipts. Men are being led astray. Get fitness and health on point. Have a rotation of a handful of baeeees and source often. But generate sources of income. Cultivate lifestyle. Go ALL IN! Just know we're never going back to the way things were pre scamdemic nor 1950s. The game is compliance and that goes for life, Game, and even the country you reside in. Thank god you are American especially with the collapse of individual sovereignty in most of the world.
 

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The world you are competing is far harder than the one me and @SW15 came up in or learned game in (contrary to the married boomers on YouTube shilling rubbish).
I'd say I came up in the world of 1998-2006 (ages 15-23). I read my first article online about meeting women and seduction as a college freshman in Fall 2001. I don't think the world of 2001-2006 was all that great. The mating environment was difficult then but not as difficult as now. Social media, earbuds, and websites/swipe apps made it more difficult.

The Boomers came up in a better era than I did as an early Millennial. So did most of Gen X.

The game hasn't even been harder but the competition couldn't be any weaker. Men don't approach in aggregate never mind git game. Most guys are soy and low T.
Most men are beta males. That is as true in 2021 as it was in 2001. A 2010-present beta male is weaker than a 1990s beta male though. I don't know if I would say most men are soy and low T, but there are more soy-ish men out there. Testosterone levels have been dropping. My last T test was above average and above median. I do not eat any foods with soy-based ingedients.

Most men are swipe and text monkeys on apps. In-person approaching has been declining since before the pandemic. While in-person approaching is difficult and always has been, it can lead to some good things.

The loudest guys on YouTube are playing house and pedaling ebooks. No receipts. Men are being led astray. Get fitness and health on point. Have a rotation of a handful of baeeees and source often. But generate sources of income. Cultivate lifestyle. Go ALL IN! Just know we're never going back to the way things were pre scamdemic nor 1950s. The game is compliance and that goes for life, Game, and even the country you reside in. Thank god you are American especially with the collapse of individual sovereignty in most of the world.
It's difficult to discern on YouTube which infields are real. I have always had a difficult time with watching infields.

Most men do end up playing house. Of people I know in real life, there are very few men I know like me who have reached 35 and never married/no kids/never lived with a girlfriend.
 

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I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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