"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How to maintain interest long distance?

Chickfight

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So say there's a girl who's really really into you, but you can't be together because you left to a different country. How do you maintain attraction without being there with her anymore? Is it even possible?

I tried it before with the girl I'm talking about who I had a summer fling with, but it didn't turn out well. Maybe she lost interest, I don't know.
Eventually I met up with her again when I went to visit the country she's in the past holidays (to see family and friends). Now she's even more "in love" with me than before. I could make her do almost anything at this point. We also got a lot more physical this time, BUT I'm halfway across the globe again.

I'm supposed to phone her later today, but I don't want to repeat the same mistakes as last time which I think were way too much messaging and calling without any physicality. When I'm there it's easy to make her go crazy for me, but what now?

EDIT: oh and before anyone mentions it, I DO have plates over here, but I still want to maintain this one. She's definitely my favorite in a while.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Don't waste too much time on long distance relationships.

Unless you know you are going to be in her physical location soon, don't waste too much time on contacting her, and focus on other chicks.

And then when you know you are going to be near her again, re-initiate contact to get the fires stoked again.

Chances are, however, in the mean time, that she will find another dude who is around more than you are.

So, at least you won't waste too much time on a prospect with minimal chance of success.
 

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it really cant be done.
 

Chickfight

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Yeah I agree with you runner. I told her it won't really work out because of the distance, but we'll figure it out when we see each other again. I'll probably call her every few weeks or so.

I'm not really worried some other guy will get her though. All the guys she meets are hyper christian virgins. I really had to bring out the big guns to get her so she's definitely not easy to get either.

One other thing I fvcking hate about this distance is the time delay on the phone, it fvcks with the flow of the convo.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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The only thing you can 'do' is to be the highest value man around, leaving her with no better options. However, whatever value you hold in her life, the value will very likely quickly degenerate and dissolve as the options of other men flood her proximity, despite your conceptions of the men she has exposure—if she found you in her proximity she will find other guys with your caliber of high value. Love is closely tied to geographical proximity. You must be the most interesting man in the world to overcome distance, which you most assuredly are not.
 

Chickfight

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Rogue said:
The only thing you can 'do' is to be the highest value man around, leaving her with no better options. However, whatever value you hold in her life, the value will very likely quickly degenerate and dissolve as the options of other men flood her proximity, despite your conceptions of the men she has exposure—if she found you in her proximity she will find other guys with your caliber of high value. Love is closely tied to geographical proximity. You must be the most interesting man in the world to overcome distance, which you most assuredly are not.
Yes, good points you make, but I still feel confident that she won't fall for any other guys for a few reasons.

-She lives in China and she's not really into Asian dudes, especially the local ones. Not so much a race thing as an attitude thing.
-She's tall for a girl, (5'10'') which already eliminates a large percentage of guys, especially in China. I'm 6'2''.
-She doesn't party and hardly drinks
-We have bonded a lot and legitimately have great chemistry. Always have fun together and she's been into me for the past 6 months.
-I have better game than most guys my age and definitely guys her age.
-She's religious and believe me that's a fvcking hard shield to break down.

I don't want to come across as an ego stroking douche, but I'm listing these things as reasons why it won't be easy for her to come across a guy with higher value than me. At least in her eyes.
I've lived there for many years and I, unlike her, do go out often and meet a lot of strangers and I rarely come across a guy who I can't out game. I honestly do feel like it was a big fluke she met a guy like me.

So unless these choir boy friends of hers have some jesus magic up their sleeves, I think I'm good in that area. Any other thoughts?
 
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