How to kino on short dates with barriers?

[Dreesy]

Went on a first date recently (from online), met up for a drink at a small place and it seemed to have gone pretty good but I found my issue was not enough contact. The table size didn't help.

When we met she went to shake my hand but I told her "stand up, im a hugger" and she laughed and had no problem with it. I made sure to sit down to her side instead of directly in front and managed to get a few minor kinos like high-fiving, but nothing escalating.

I eventually had to sit in the other chair across from her, as the seat I was sitting in had lots of people brushing by as the place was starting to get busy. Once I got on the other side of that table I didn't really have any idea of how to regain contact. Any reaching over the table would have been too obvious and wouldn't have the same effect, so what do you do in a situation like that?

 

[BeDJ]

Move to a different bar.

 

[Harry Wilmington]

The simple solution is to always check out the places you plan to take a girl BEFORE you take her there. It's a first date, so you can take every girl you go on a first date with to the same place and they won't know you use it all the time - but yeah, find a couple of spots you think are interesting and make sure the tables/seating/layout of the place isn't going to cause you to get "blocked" in your kinoing efforts.

As for if you're already in a situation where the layout is awkward? Simple: wait for her to initiate it. I have found that the more difficult the scenario is set up for them to touch me, the more they go out of their way to do it. Let's say it were me on this date, and we ended up at a restaurant with sizable tables. The first thing I would have done is sat across from her, not next to her (that's a move you pull once you're a few dates in, but not on the first once since you don't know if she wants you that close in her space yet). The second thing I would have done is made a joke about it, like cupping my hands on the sides of my mouth and saying "HEEEEEEY, HOW'S THE WEATHER OVER THEEEEERE?!?" to get her laughing.

Thirdly, I would have monitored her moves during the night to see what excuses she would set up to touch me. I have found that girls who like me will figure out a way, at some point in the night, to touch me. So, if she could not have done it at the table during dinner, fine - I would have looked to see if she did it while we were walking to and from the restaurant, or in the car, or while dropping her off. The touch itself may not even seem like something that's a major action - for example, she could have lightly touched my shoulder while telling me a funny joke, or started bumping into my side by "accident" while we were walking - but those are HUGE indicators that she wants you in her space. That's why I wait for them to kino me first - if the touch is incoming, it means she's comfortable enough with me to where my touches on her won't be rejected or seem forced.

Hope this helps!

 

[buzzin_frog]

I eventually had to sit in the other chair across from her, as the seat I was sitting in had lots of people brushing by as the place was starting to get busy. Once I got on the other side of that table I didn't really have any idea of how to regain contact. Any reaching over the table would have been too obvious and wouldn't have the same effect, so what do you do in a situation like that?

You had this working to your advantage.....but didn't use it....this was the perfect opportunity to bounce her out of there.....take her to another place where you can really escalate!!

I always choose a crowded bar....that way I can get her out of there....where we can be alone....this is what you should be doing on your dates as well....first date lays work out really well with this method...use it!!

 

[jake-a-roo4]

Why didn't you get her out of the bar?

The second thing I would have done is made a joke about it, like cupping my hands on the sides of my mouth and saying "HEEEEEEY, HOW'S THE WEATHER OVER THEEEEERE?!?" to get her laughing.

I seriously doubt she would laugh at that. Say this and she will laugh at you for being a dork and she won't want another date.

 

[XRCBWilliams15]

I always try to get a table with 90 degree seating, makes it WAY easier. This can be requested when making a reservation.

You can guarantee this at a bar when sitting at the corner of the bar, or at a small hightop table.

Sometimes there is nothing you can do to get 90 degree seating. Hand touching is usually pretty easy. Or I find if i lean into the table and have my hand in the middle-ish the girl will usually touch my hand on her own. Definitely kino on the walk to her car, on the way in and out, this is a no-brainer.

I also find it's really easy to kino standing up. So I try to take girls to places that have more than one place to hangout. (i.e. take a girl to a bar, after one drink, take her out to the patio, or rooftop or whatever)

Worrying about this kind of stuff is kinda pointless (I am majorly guilty of putting way to much pre-thought into a date I had last week), but if you can pull off any of the things I mentioned, it makes it easier. Easier = more comfortable, more comfortable = more confident and familiar, which are all good things in my opinion.

 

[hudpes]

wait for her to initiate it

I think this is the best possible strategy. Women, will signal a go ahead. Use the right measure and you can't fail, flood them with KINO when they're not ready for it and you'll lose their desire and awake repulsion.