"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How to handle a drunk HB?

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First post, love the site has been great inspiration.

A little background - I'm 36, reasonably attractive (8.5 on hotornot, for what it's worth) and have been out of an LTR for a couple of years. I meet a lot of people mainly through clubs/bars though quality and longevity can be variable. I get bored quick :D. I'm much better at taking advantage of natural openings, so am working on the cold approaches somewhat.

Last night I was at a local club, some good eye contact with a very attractive 20something. Later, I'm standing near the dance floor with my back to her and her friend, smoking. I feel a tap on my back, it's her asking for a light.

Me: That's the oldest trick in the book, you think I'm gonna fall for that?
Her: Smile, expectant look.
Me: What's your name?
Her: Sarah
Me: How's your evening?
Her: I'm wankered and going to bed (for the non UK folk, she means she's drunk as hell)
Me: Riiiightttt....

She stumped me, so I ended the interaction and 2 minutes later she and her friend were gone.

Guess I could have played on the innuedno, or just gone straight for the number and wished her good night?

Any pointers as to how I could have handled this better would be great! Thanks!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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SELF-MASTERY

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you could always fk, but then that would make you a rapist....
 

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SELF-MASTERY said:
you could always fk, but then that would make you a rapist....

Yeah you have to be careful in the UK nowadays....

Drunk = Rape if shes not happy in the morning. Fvcking stupid law. What happened to the days where waking up next to someone you wouldnt have slept with the night before was just a bad memeory.

I like your start.

"Thats the oldest trick in the book" but you needed to extened.


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Tomatoes said:
"Thats the oldest trick in the book" but you needed to extened.
"That's the oldest trick in the book,I don't care how mildly attractive you are,you will have to try harder"
 

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blinkwatt said:
"That's the oldest trick in the book,I don't care how mildly attractive you are,you will have to try harder"

Sounds good

Would have to be said with a ****y smile :D


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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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But you have to be carefull when it comes to fvcking drunks cuz it could make you a rapist. But if you leave her AFTER you've fvcked she'll never remember you.



"What's your name?"

I never frankly ask for her name. Make her wanna tell you HER name or ask for yours first. You're not the one to send IOI.

You also didn't make her talk. You asked quick "yes/no"-questions. You should have said something like: "See, my friend is in love with this chick but he's too afraid to tell her. What should he do?"

But hey. That's not the issue anyway.
JUST DON'T RAPE!
 

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blinkwatt said:
"That's the oldest trick in the book,I don't care how mildly attractive you are,you will have to try harder"
Like it, yep that's a good way to open negotiations! I've had a lot of fun before with "just how much that cigarette's gonna cost you" and it's the same deal really...

tomatoes said:
Would have to be said with a ****y smile
I've a perpetual ****y smile. It's started all sorts of mischief :D

danjoz said:
"What's your name?"
I never frankly ask for her name. Make her wanna tell you HER name or ask for yours first. You're not the one to send IOI.

You also didn't make her talk. You asked quick "yes/no"-questions.
Gah, you're right, i'd not thought about it as an IOI before though it clearly is. I'll go for opinion stuff next time.

On the drunk/fk thing, I normally steer clear of obviosuly drunk women, it usually ends up as a headache one way or another; this one was very cute tho and made the first real move. I felt I could have better engaged and at least got the number for a more sober encounter :D.

Thanks for the feedback!
 

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are you serious? sometimes drunk=rape over there? what if YOU'RE not happy in the morning? does that mean she raped you? hmmm....
 
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