“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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How to give Kino

Doe Boii

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Could someone give examples of appropriate times and ways to give kino to attract a positive response for a girl you're trying to pick up? I mean appropriate time and way like you would use different kino on a girl you already know than a girl you just met in the mall, or something and want to pick up.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Google 'the dicarlo escalation ladder' - it's the best explanation of kino escalation i've come across
 

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Shezz said:
Just do it - she's a woman, she LOVES to be touched. Jesus, stop overanalysing human nature and just go with the flow.

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Use a mean pressure of 2 pounds on your fingertips and palms combined when kinoing.

Do not go past one third the maximum of the sagittal plane when examining. Avoid covering your hands with any hydrocarbons or ionic substances prior to examination. And remember to cover yourself with some aromatic solutions prior to encounter to increase the rosponse from the subject.
 

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Call_Me_Daddy said:
Use a mean pressure of 2 pounds on your fingertips and palms combined when kinoing.

Do not go past one third the maximum of the sagittal plane when examining. Avoid covering your hands with any hydrocarbons or ionic substances prior to examination. And remember to cover yourself with some aromatic solutions prior to encounter to increase the rosponse from the subject.

MADE OF WIN :up:
 

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Shezz said:
Actually dude. You probably just re-phrased the original post in a more 'intelligent' way haha! Awesome.

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What. You mean talking and interacting with people is not like defusing a bomb?
 

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Why should it be? Defusing a bomb takes years of experience, not just anyone can do it, and you have to look at every possiblity of how she's hooked up. Kino, at least it's a natural aspect of life and you already got the tools in hand (ahaha..) to fire away. Best thing is? The same Kino works time and time again once you know how she's hooked up.

So my friend, you aren't going to be a bomb defuser when you grow up, sorry to crush the inner child. (I think it's best for you though)
 

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Shezz said:
Just do it - she's a woman, she LOVES to be touched. Jesus, stop overanalysing human nature and just go with the flow.

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No offence but you're 20 and maybe, just maybe you still have a bit to learn.

My take on this is : let her initiate it, it will be a good indicator of her level of interest and attraction to you.

Kino during a street PU for instance is a no-go as you're intruding her intimacy zone too fast.

Plus, if you're forcing yourself to do it it will come across as creepy.

I personnally do close to zero kino on Day 1 if I meet the girl in any place other than a bar or a club because "No kino is better than terrible kino"

A friend of mine and famous seduction coach also follows the No-kino-until-she-initiates-it rule and has a track record similar to mine to back it up.
 

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Blusher said:
No offence but you're 20 and maybe, just maybe you still have a bit to learn.

My take on this is : let her initiate it, it will be a good indicator of her level of interest and attraction to you.

Kino during a street PU for instance is a no-go as you're intruding her intimacy zone too fast.

Plus, if you're forcing yourself to do it it will come across as creepy.

I personnally do close to zero kino on Day 1 if I meet the girl in any place other than a bar or a club because "No kino is better than terrible kino"

A friend of mine and famous seduction coach also follows the No-kino-until-she-initiates-it rule and has a track record similar to mine to back it up.

No, no, no. Sorry but this just doesn't work. A LOT of women will not kino you first, especially when sober. My last two f-closes neither girl kinoed me AT ALL prior to escalation to the seduction location. Yet, they both went upstairs to "meet my cat" willingly and gave zero LMR the whole way. If I was waiting for IOIs I would have lost both. Waiting for IOIs is AFC - it is your job to escalate. I learned this the hard way and once I stopped giving a rip about IOIs my game turned 180.

Waiting for IOIs will cost you a lot of closes. Its always on unless it is firmly stated otherwise.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Look, it all depends, there are no cut and dry rules with kino.

One thing you do need to understand it needs to be integrated with a lot more. It CANNOT work independantly of a lot of other things.

Imagine trying to kino when conversation is awkward, when you have weak eye contact, when your body language is all ****ed up, when you are all nervous. It aint gonna work. Its going to backfire.

Anyway lets just assume you have the rest of your **** together. Kino should be natural from the beginning. There should be opportunity to touch naturally. Shake hands when you meet; when you hand her something, touch her hand; when you are going somewhere, indicate where to go with touch not words; when passing her gently place a hand on her as you pass; when sharing a joke slap her leg with amusement, when she is telling you something of emotional content place a hand on her in a comforting way; when she teases you wrestle her, when you disagree grab her in a fake attack...

Just do it in a natural and casual way. If she touches back you'll know to escalate. If she moves away or seems awkward, I'd cut that **** out.

JJ
 

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Grab her ass or you can even shove your hands in her panties.
 
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