GameOfNoGame
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If someone's made all the mistakes with a girl who's playing games, how do you judo your way back on top?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
How to get your power back
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Nexus Polaris
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Do you mean with that particular girl or in general?
With that specific girl, I would say just move on and let it go. Why would you waste your time with a girl who is playing games anyway? Abundance mentality, man. Women are everywhere. If she's d1cking you around, just go find a better one. Or five.
In general, just learn to stop giving a fück. You'd be amazed at how many of your DJ problems completely go away when you get to a point where you can just relax and stop caring.
With that specific girl, I would say just move on and let it go. Why would you waste your time with a girl who is playing games anyway? Abundance mentality, man. Women are everywhere. If she's d1cking you around, just go find a better one. Or five.
In general, just learn to stop giving a fück. You'd be amazed at how many of your DJ problems completely go away when you get to a point where you can just relax and stop caring.
GameOfNoGame
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Both whatever, that one aside I have two others on the go. Obviously you'll get laid if you just talk enough women but where's the satisfaction in that? I just want to know what to do when I **** up on the rules. lol come on guys you must have more to say then move on. Why would a girl waste her time on us when we're playing games? Sometimes it just happens so you mght as well play to win.
PapiChulo
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I am doing the exact same thing. It's an extremely good topic to discuss because it's more common now that we would like to admit. Women are behaving like men and catching up in the game.
Not giving a f*ck is just keeping you safe from being hurt or emotionally invested, but the real satisfaction is when you do get that b*tch purely out of sportsmanship. It's a game after all. She is playing games in which sense - attention whoring?
Freez outs , no contact are the usual stuff to do here, but they are all passive and dont really work on attention wh*re if she is getting the attention somewhere else.
One thing I ve found is that if you give your attention to somebody else and she witnesses it- she will get jealous instantly and come to get you.
It's time to ask this question: Does she have any good-looking girlfriends or relatives? If you are in a social situation you might as well find a chick who will flirt and get it on with her.
Attention wh*ore does not share the spotlight-it's her weakness.
Nexting is good too, but the chances are that you will run into another "cutie"-"nice girl" -"sexy kitten" who will also turn into an attention wh*ore.
They all just want to be bent over.
P.S. you are mentioning mistakes. Which kind? It might be too far gone to salvage.
Not giving a f*ck is just keeping you safe from being hurt or emotionally invested, but the real satisfaction is when you do get that b*tch purely out of sportsmanship. It's a game after all. She is playing games in which sense - attention whoring?
Freez outs , no contact are the usual stuff to do here, but they are all passive and dont really work on attention wh*re if she is getting the attention somewhere else.
One thing I ve found is that if you give your attention to somebody else and she witnesses it- she will get jealous instantly and come to get you.
It's time to ask this question: Does she have any good-looking girlfriends or relatives? If you are in a social situation you might as well find a chick who will flirt and get it on with her.
Attention wh*ore does not share the spotlight-it's her weakness.
Nexting is good too, but the chances are that you will run into another "cutie"-"nice girl" -"sexy kitten" who will also turn into an attention wh*ore.
They all just want to be bent over.
P.S. you are mentioning mistakes. Which kind? It might be too far gone to salvage.
GameOfNoGame
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But isn't the rule, too much attention is bad & no attention is also bad? It's a little attention that's key. So I think no contact can work but only after you've given them a little attention. Or hell, having a ****ing tantrum at her now & then seemed to work just as well.
Maybe it's better to be hated for a bit then let her get indifferent? I don't know. Or maybe these mind ****ers know they deserve a good screaming at from time to time or even like that sort of thing so long as you're not abusing them like lesser men would.
Because if it's about attention, they can find it somewhere else. But what kinds and how much attention is most effective? I never discussed other women around girls I'm working on. It seemed too obvious but when I tried it, it was like I was taking their crack away.
Maybe it's better to be hated for a bit then let her get indifferent? I don't know. Or maybe these mind ****ers know they deserve a good screaming at from time to time or even like that sort of thing so long as you're not abusing them like lesser men would.
Because if it's about attention, they can find it somewhere else. But what kinds and how much attention is most effective? I never discussed other women around girls I'm working on. It seemed too obvious but when I tried it, it was like I was taking their crack away.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Diaforetikos
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Dood, just take a chance with what YOU think you should do.
Your not marrying her right? That's what I thought. Learning from experimenting outweighs a potential plate. Take a chance and see what happens. If it doesn't work, you know what to do next time.
Your not marrying her right? That's what I thought. Learning from experimenting outweighs a potential plate. Take a chance and see what happens. If it doesn't work, you know what to do next time.
GameOfNoGame
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Respect Man. I like that response. There's no universal answer. I've alwas gone with my gut & it's gotten me places people spend hours calculating. I just want to know how to exude that my attitude isn't weakness, it's strength to adversity.
PapiChulo
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The gut feeling is 99% right - I always go with that too, yet sometimes you just dont see it coming with the attention wh*res.
Honestly, I dont see getting it on with someone to make her jealous as miserable at all. Its the womans weapon and tactics used on her. Its evil, low and cruel - yes, but at some point you just have to fuk with her and beat the b!tch at her own game. She wants to play - she has it coming. I assume that one should use discretion when resorting to such severe means.
Honestly, I dont see getting it on with someone to make her jealous as miserable at all. Its the womans weapon and tactics used on her. Its evil, low and cruel - yes, but at some point you just have to fuk with her and beat the b!tch at her own game. She wants to play - she has it coming. I assume that one should use discretion when resorting to such severe means.