"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
how to get your gf to move out w/o breaking up?
- Thread starter strey
- Start date
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
jophil28
Master Don Juan
However, she will see through those weasel statements like " I need some physical space" or some such whiney crap.Why won't she go for it ? Because woman are masters of disguising their intentions with slippery words, and she sure isn't gonna fall for yours. Asking her to live somewheres else and sleep in another bed will be understandably felt as a rejection. She will think that you want to end the relationship but don't have the nuts to say so.
Perhaps if you post some more revelant details I may be able to offer a tip or two.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
jophil28 said:you want to end the relationship but don't have the nuts to say so.QUOTE]
jackpot, larry, tell him what he has won!!!!!
so i figure our relationship might actually work for the better if she moves out. i still like her, but she isnt going for it. why do we have to continue the same path we have been doing or dismiss the thing entirely? we were stupid and moved in way too early in the relationship. now she wont let go. im just sick of her **** and just need a little space.
jophil28
Master Don Juan
strey said:What she wants is to stay "nested" with you. If she moves out she will see it as the end of her 'dream'.jophil28 said:you want to end the relationship but don't have the nuts to say so.QUOTE]
jackpot, larry, tell him what he has won!!!!!
so i figure our relationship might actually work for the better if she moves out. i still like her, but she isnt going for it. why do we have to continue the same path we have been doing or dismiss the thing entirely? we were stupid and moved in way too early in the relationship. now she wont let go. im just sick of her **** and just need a little space.
What you really want is for her to take her whiny girly shyte elsewhere and give you some air to breathe .
What you also really want is to visit her when you feel the urge for a fuk and have her accomodate you. Not gonna work for long because she knows that her pvssy is her only bargaining chip.
Unfortunately you and she want vastly different things, so do not expect the separation to "work better..." . You will be getting what you want,but she is not getting her what she wants.
MY suggestion is to just breakup, start over and do not move in with another woman UNLESS she has absolutely proved her worth as a future wife and you are ready to sign up with her...
If its your place, your lease, then just kick her ass to the curb. Be like "babe, I got love for ya, but I cant live with ya. You got to go." call the cops first and have them on standby that way if she starts acting nuts they will remove her immedietely.
now if she is on the lease agreement, well son your gona have to stick it out I suppose or pay up to get out.
jophil28 said:i think you are right, thank youstrey said:What she wants is to stay "nested" with you. If she moves out she will see it as the end of her 'dream'.
What you really want is for her to take her whiny girly shyte elsewhere and give you some air to breathe .
What you also really want is to visit her when you feel the urge for a fuk and have her accomodate you. Not gonna work for long because she knows that her pvssy is her only bargaining chip.
Unfortunately you and she want vastly different things, so do not expect the separation to "work better..." . You will be getting what you want,but she is not getting her what she wants.
MY suggestion is to just breakup, start over and do not move in with another woman UNLESS she has absolutely proved her worth as a future wife and you are ready to sign up with her...
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Da Realist
Master Don Juan
But the really, let's cut out the doomsday scenerio and get to what's really happening. She's constantly in your face, you can't get any alone time at your own place, and sex has probably went down. Instead of looking at moving her out, you need to look at yourself. I mean, women do a lot of crazy stuff and can be to blame for a lot of things, but guys mess up too and you think it's all her fault. What do you do to blow off steam? Do you just come home, eat, and watch tv all night, or do you actually go out and do stuff that interest you? Do you think just because she moved in you have to stop working as hard to get here in the bed or do you still try to be romantic? Do you take her with you when you go out or at least offer to do so?
See when you move in with someone, the relationship changes. You can't be the same knucklehead chasing every vag that moves so you can dump your load in it. You got somebody who still wants that exciting life you promised her whether you know it or not, and she's expecting you to pay up. When you get ask her to leave, she will feel cheated and she will leave unless she's just the type to let a guy walk all over her. The thing is either you make a commitment to grow up or you go on an let her go because you are not going to get the best of both worlds like you're hoping. Believe it or not, she made an investment in you and kicking her out is pretty much saying you could care less about it. So with that, it's time to man up to either accept her being out of your life or to make things better on your own end. With the latter, you need to stop blaming her for your lack of space and create some for yourself without alienating her.
scrouds
Master Don Juan
Break up with her. (Reason for breakup: You aren't happy anymore). Watch her move out. Wait for her to sign a lease or otherwise get locked into a place. Then tell her you miss her and want to date her again.
If you give it to her as a loss for her she will fight against it. But if you dump out everything then offer her something back, you might come out ahead.
No guarantees!
good thinking man, i say try this one!scrouds said:If you give it to her as a loss for her she will fight against it. But if you dump out everything then offer her something back, you might come out ahead.