"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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How to get out of the friend-zone?

Sherlock-Holmes

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Hey guys,

I've been seeing this girl for around 4 months now, but i belief she only treats me as a friend. Any recommendation to get out of the friend-zone?

Opinions, tips would be very much appreciated!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Sherlock-Holmes said:
Hey guys,

I've been seeing this girl for around 4 months now, but i belief she only treats me as a friend. Any recommendation to get out of the friend-zone?

Opinions, tips would be very much appreciated!
The real question is:

Do you treat her as a friend?

If no NEXT her
 

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Obviously you haven't been sexual in any way whatsoever
or she shot you down and you stuck around hoping for a chance
either way you're doomed. Walk away now
 

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Four months in the friendzone?

Before you try to get out of the friendzone you must be certain you are fine losing your friendship with her. I mean that if things go wrong there is a chance you may never talk to her again. Are you willing to risk that?

If so, make a move. Try to kiss her. It might be a bit easier if the both of you are a bit tipsy.

If things go wrong, prepare to suffer the consequences.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Actually im having a upcoming project with her. But i dont want her to be "just a friend", you know. I did hold her hands, and she doesn't seem to mind, besides being a little shy or such.
 

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Sherlock-Holmes said:
Actually im having a upcoming project with her.
The fact that you have a project coming up with her just makes things worse.


What gets you friendzoned is constantly being around a girl WITHOUT showing your interest in her. So this project you have coming up is just more of you being around her WITHOUT showing interest.


If you truely are in the friendzone with her,then you can forget it.


It's easier to avoid the friendzone than to get out of it. So if you didn't have the knowledge or wisdom to avoid this thing in the first place,then you DEFINATELY don't have the understanding to get out of it.



Sherlock-Holmes said:
But i dont want her to be "just a friend", you know. I did hold her hands, and she doesn't seem to mind, besides being a little shy or such.
Well if you're bold enough to hold her hand NOW,then why didn't you do it 4 MONTHS AGO before this friendzone situation came up?



All you can do is ask her out. Maxtro had it right:you need to be prepared to lose her as a "friend" because there's a good chance that that's what's going to happen.


I'd just forget it.


If you truely,truely are in the friendzone with this girl...I'd just forget it.
 

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We went out for movies, dinners, and i send her home a time or 2. But i mean, normal friends do that too right? LOL!
 

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Sherlock-Holmes said:
We went out for movies, dinners, and i send her home a time or 2. But i mean, normal friends do that too right? LOL!
Yes, girlfriends do, do that.

Do you do anything with her that only a man could do?

Have you ever done anything with her that she couldn't do with a brother?
 

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Sherlock-Holmes said:
We went out for movies, dinners, and i send her home a time or 2.
You're being a fool if you're the one paying for all this.


Dinners and movies for a girl you're not even dating? Wow.



More and more it looks like that Rescue Mission dude is right in what he says.



The dinners and movies just makes your chances of dating her even WORSE.


You ever heard of "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?"


Well if you're already taking her to movies and dinners WITHOUT officially dating each other,if she can get these things from you now,while STILL BEING SINGLE,then what motivation or reason would she have for wanting to get into a relationship with you?


All this you're doing for her,and in four months,all you've done is hold her hand? :crackup: LOL....that's a good one dude.


Boy,I needed that laugh. :crackup:



Sherlock-Holmes said:
But i mean, normal friends do that too right? LOL!
Stop being foolish.

This is justification.


Why do you care if normal friends go to movies and dinner? You just said in a earlier post that you don't want to be just "a friend" with her.



Well if you don't want to be "just a friend",then why are you acting like just a friend to her?



If she does (or has) friendzone you,it's not her fault. You can't blame her for this.



All she's doing is recipricating.


All she's doing is sending out to you what YOU FIRST sent out to her.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Nope i never paid for her!
We always split in half.

Maxtor, could you emphasize what such things could be?

I think im in deep ****.
 

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The most obvious thing is sex. The next level down is a kiss on the lips. Then there is suggestive touching like putting your hand on her thigh or brushing some hair away from her face, and other intimate things like that. Have you put your arm around her waist?

Then there are also conversations about sex and using inuendos.

What Igetit says it's right, you're basically dating her except she is getting what she want's and you aren't.

BTW I already did the same thing you're doing now. After spending months with the chick, she didn't even have a clue that I liked her, I was just her BFF. Of course the forever part ended when I told her of my interest. I haven't spoken to her in a year and probably never will again.
 

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Sherlock-Holmes said:
Nope i never paid for her!
We always split in half.

Maxtor, could you emphasize what such things could be?

I think im in deep ****.
You are. Why the f**k did you not escalate? Be sexual!

When you arrive in the friendzone, it's tough to get out! Don't land your ass there in the first place!
 

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PRECISELY! I didn't know i liked her in the beginning. I did
brush some hair off her face yesterday night, and sometimes
touching her waist, but for breif periods. =/
 

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Well Holmes, the next time you are with her you need to make a move. Since you've already been that intimate with her it shouldn't be hard to go for a kiss.

You could pull her into you for a kiss, or if you are sitting next to her make deep eye contact, look at her lips, then her eyes again and go for a kiss.

The time for waiting has long past and you need to take action.

There is nothing else that I can say.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Could i just give her a peck on the cheek? lol.
 
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