"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How to find out what class she is in?

DamHE

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Hello

First off let me say hello to everyone. Ok, so where to begin.. Hmm. I'm not the Prom King when it comes to looks or popularity but I am friendly with almost everyone in my class (in my high school the class moves together to each subject except the electives).

They know me well and I can keep them in stiches for hours. I had a low confidence level for a while but it's gone up exponentially the last few days. I've been with 2 girlfriends before. I guess I have some charm because according to HotorNot I'm a 6.8 and these girls were 9's and 10's. The problem is that all I had to do was be in their same class and just be myself and they made the first moves..

I recently saw a girl who is a 8, maybe 8.5. Well, she's good looking so I thought that I should try to talk to her and see what she's like personality wise. Here is the problem.. I don't know how to approach her. Usually I walk home from school but she gets on a city bus that goes in the same direction as my house so I can board it with her if I needed to. I was thinking of arriving at the bus stop a couple minutes after she does.. But I don't know what I could say from there?

If you guys could help me.. I'm not asking for advice about confidence, etc, because I'm not scared, but I need to find out what class she is in but I don't want to say it in a way as though I REEEEEALLY want to know (which I do) because it might sound a bit stalkerish / obsessive. So if you could help me with what to say.. :)

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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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how to find out which class shes in?

ask her
 

Michele l'Arcangelo

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I can't tell you exactly what to say... but I'll leave you off with this:

Read articles that covers conversations from this site... and SoSuave.com... and the dj-bible at the very bottom of this page.

This isn't me saying 'shut up'... it's just that if you read all of those articles... you WILL get a good picture on how to do it without asking for advice again.



THE_ADDMAN said:
how to find out which class shes in?

ask her
he doesn't know her i'm guessing... and doesn't want to sound stalkerish.
 

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I read the articles but they all seem to say the same thing: "You have to make the first move so approach and talk".

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to sound like Mr[lack of]Confidence here but I don't think that would work in my case. I'm actually trying to get to know her, not just attract her. All these smooth-talking maneuvers might work great for picking up the ladies, but that's not what I'm interested in (yet). Again, I don't want to sound stalkerish. The hair on the back of her neck might stand on end if she got complimented on her jeans from some total stranger who might be a grade older than her, no? How would I be able to strike up a casual conversation?

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Michele said:
he doesn't know her i'm guessing... and doesn't want to sound stalkerish.
Exactly. strike up a conversation, make nice and ask casually. best way to get information is directly from the source. much less stalkerish than asking her friends, and letting it get back to her, or watching her to see which class she goes to.

DamnHE said:
All these smooth-talking maneuvers might work great for picking up the ladies, but that's not what I'm interested in (yet). Again, I don't want to sound stalkerish. The hair on the back of her neck might stand on end if she got complimented on her jeans from some total stranger who might be a grade older than her, no? How would I be able to strike up a casual conversation?
well since you arent worried about picking her up, she cant "reject" you, and you have nothing to fear. keep it fun, ask her if they are serving anything edible in the cafeteria today.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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deadaim89

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i think he means class like class of 09. ask her, girls arent ****ings shiests all the time, she will tell you.
 
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