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How to diffuse a grumpy ****block?

getready

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So I was at the club in a 3 set. First girl was nice I was chatting her up a little then she left the group or something I forget. Second girl was really receptive smiling laughing . The third girl was just standing there ignoring me frowning. I wasnt really trying to pick any of these girls up I was mostly looking to work on my talking game/ get some social proof in the club. Anyways so I turn to the grumpy one and say somehthing like

"Hey you should smile more" with a ****y grin on my face.

Of course I have said this to many girls when they are looking b****y just to mess with them, and it almost always results in the girl being more of a b****.

Anyways lo and behold the grumpy girl gives me a scowl, leans over and whispers in the second girls ear. I quickly get a "we have to go". As they leave I laugh and say "too bad". Then I grabbed the second girl and say "i like you" or something jokingly. She gives me a wink a smile and walks away.

So I definitely had the second girl interested. What's the best way to deal with a grumpy friend? When I'm actually trying to pick the girls up I need to have a better plan.
 

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getready said:
Anyways so I turn to the grumpy one and say somehthing like

"Hey you should smile more" with a ****y grin on my face.

Of course I have said this to many girls when they are looking b****y just to mess with them, and it almost always results in the girl being more of a b****.
Of course....you told her what to do. If you want to bust her out of (or at least throw her off balance) the "i'm a biatch in a biatchy mood" frame you'll have to take other approaches.

Say an opposite like (with a completely serious happy tone and facial expression) "i see you're the fun one here, awesome".

You're staying in charge because you're not feeding her frame OR giving her an order. She'll either leave you alone or loosen up and explain why she's not in a good mood. Maybe she's NOT a biatch and it's just that her cat just died or something similar.

Showing that you're not going to get sucked into her reality or attack her socially goes a long way towards pulling the claws out of a possible biatch.
 

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Thanks for the imput I'll try both of these approaches and see which works best!
 
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