"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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voodoolover

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Then I thought I should make a deal about it with my gf, but it's not her that brought it up and I'm worried she'd start to think I'm being way too paranoid, am I?
Yes. To be fair mate if she doesn't mind it then it's none of your business.

Good luck with the move dude, do the two of you get on well?
 

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voodoolover said:
Good luck with the move dude, do the two of you get on well?
Thanks. We do right now, yes but our relationship has been a bit of a rocky ride so far. Us moving in together is definately going to be an acid test for our future.
 

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Rocky how?
But maybe I should just keep shtum and see whether the living together works or not and base things upon that.
 
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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She called me the morning after and confessed.
I guess that's something, she could have just never told you.

I get where you're coming from though, things can build up, right? And suddenly every little problem makes you wanna run a mile.

It's a big risk you're taking mate, moving in with a girl you don't 100% trust, especially when it's been purely long distance up to this point. If you were asking for my advice I'd say move into student accommodation when you get over there, at least to start with. Then you can see how it works out when the two of you see each other every day, and take it from there. But as you weren't looking for advice on this matter, I'll mind my own business.

Best of luck with it man.
 

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voodoolover said:
I guess that's something, she could have just never told you.

I get where you're coming from though, things can build up, right? And suddenly every little problem makes you wanna run a mile.

It's a big risk you're taking mate, moving in with a girl you don't 100% trust, especially when it's been purely long distance up to this point. If you were asking for my advice I'd say move into student accommodation when you get over there, at least to start with. Then you can see how it works out when the two of you see each other every day, and take it from there. But as you weren't looking for advice on this matter, I'll mind my own business.

Best of luck with it man.
Yep, it's a gamble, I know. We've both agreed to trial it for the first semester and if things don't work out, I'll move out at christmas.

I think the main problem I have with her now, isn't trust, but mainly that I dislike most of her friends. But, hey, even if it doesn't work out, it'll be an experience, right? :cool:
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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We've both agreed to trial it for the first semester and if things don't work out, I'll move out at christmas.
Sounds like a plan.

I think the main problem I have with her now, isn't trust, but mainly that I dislike most of her friends.
Haha... I've been there too.

But, hey, even if it doesn't work out, it'll be an experience, right?
Definitely. There will be highs and lows dude, you can guarantee that.
 

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Trust me dude, I got upset about this same thing. I was reading about Herschel Walker a week ago and he said, "When I ran track, I tried not to think about the guy I was racing against, I tried to focus on myself, and tried to get there as quickly as possible, if I worried about the guy next to me, I already lost". Women are going to do what they want. Don't sweat the inevitable. Hopefully, you are bettering your life so you can get better!
 

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baller1985 said:
its this guy!!!
That thread was a headache, it quickly turned into a keyboard jockey's wet dream.

Now I'm asking for advice for a new situation. This isa dating forum where guys come for advice isn't it?
 

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That thread was a headache, it quickly turned into a keyboard jockey's wet dream.

Now I'm asking for advice for a new situation. This isa dating forum where guys come for advice isn't it?

but that thread was a disaster because your situation with that girl was a disaster

this is the same girl isnt it??
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Ofcourse it is the same girl... I remember that thread and I knew Tweek was going to patch things up with this girl. And as expected low and behold another problem pops up. Dude her ex calls her sandy vagina... sandy freaking vagina...

Infact there is no point in giving you advice I much rather see you fly over to America get with this broad catch her naked in your room one night with 5 large penises in her mouth... that is a thread I'll be waitin to read :D GoodLuck
 
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You don't have a problem with the dude or the name he uses but you do have a problem with what she did!!! Your pissed because the name is appropriate to her standing!!!
 

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Iron Rule of Tomassi #4
NEVER under any circumstance live with a woman you aren't married to or are not planning to marry in within 6 months.

You are utterly powerless in this situation. NEVER buy a home with a girlfriend, NEVER sign a rental lease with a girlfriend. NEVER agree to move into her home and absolutely NEVER move a woman into your own established living arrangement. I'm adamantly opposed to the "shacking up" dynamic, it is a trap that far too many men allow themselves to fall into. My fervor agianst this isn't based on some moral issue, it it simple pragmatism. I know a fellow right now who is in the pit of misery with a girl he signed an apartment lease with for a year and has had to basically live with his ex for tha past 5 months and wont get out of the lease until next year. If you live with a woman you may as well be married because upon doing so every liability and accountability of marriage is then in effect. You not only lose any freedom of annonymity, you commit to legally being responsible for the continuation of your living arrangements regardless of how your relationship decays.

I should also emphasize the point that when you commit (and it is a financial committment) to cohabiting with a GF you will notice a marked decrease in her sexual availability and desire, trust me on this. All of that competitive anxiety and it's resulting sexual tension that made your single sex life so great is removed from her shoulders and she can comfortably relax in the knowledge that she is your ONLY source of sexual intimacy. Putting your name on that lease with her (even if it's just your name) is akin to signing an insurance polcy for her - "I the undersigned promise not to fukk any woman but this girl for a one year term." She thinks, "if he wasn't serious about me, he wouldn't have signed the lease." Now all of that impetus and energy that made having marathon sex with you an outright necessity is relaxed. She controls the frame and she's got it in writing that it is for at least a year.

Just don't do it. Relationships last best when you spin more plates or at the very least keep each other at arm's distance. At 22 you are far too young to be monogamous, much less move in with a girl.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
. Putting your name on that lease with her (even if it's just your name) is akin to signing an insurance polcy for her - "I the undersigned promise not to fukk any woman but this girl for a one year term." She thinks, "if he wasn't serious about me, he wouldn't have signed the .
You're a freakin' genius, Rollo
 

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I don't think you're experienced enough to fully understand Rollo's rule. Two or three years from now, maybe. So here are some quick bullet points:

1) She is going to cheat on you whether you move in with her or not. She probably already is. Get out of this before you move in, or you'll spend the next year scraping your ego off the floor.

2) Her ex bf, who you're so jealous of, did nit "teach her bad habits." Her actions are her responsibility.

3) Spend less time hating her ex and more time acting like him. He's a good role model. He got in, got out, no damage and was in control of his relationship with this woman, that's more than I can say for you.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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