"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How to deal with female HR manager?

El Payaso

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She's overtly flirting with me, constant touching and comments. Yesterday, I was talking with a coworker about a movie I wanted to see this weekend and she jumped in saying she wanted to see it with me. I had to deflect. She's attractive but I wouldn't touch her with a ten foot poll. Why?

1) She's in HR.

2) She's a co-worker.

3) She's in HR.

4) Her father is a higher up.

5) She's in HR.

Any ideas on how to get her to stop?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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SmooveMooves

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You can't get her to stop. If you simply tell her to stop she'll get angry she was rejected and make your work experience hell. If your unreceptive she'll do the same.

When she flirts, remain slightly receptive and ambiguous but let it end there. After a while, one or two things will happen:

1. She'll becone uninterested because you haven't made a move.

2. She'll make the move herself in which you reject by saying that 'you'd love too, but can't because of her position'.

That way, you rejected her because of her position and she won't have a reason to be hold resent. Also creating a forbidden dynamic, so if you ever wanted to hit that and ruin your job, you could quite easily be able to.
 

wifehunter

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Play dumb. Be nice but, be naive to her advances. I do this with ladies I'm not interested in.

Another one... let her know, she reminds you of your sister.

next time she comments.... say thanks for reminding me, it's been awhile since I've seen my sister.
 

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Yes, ambiguity is the best tactic here. She'll still start treating you like a leper once she loses interest because she will still perceive it as a rejection, but it's better than a hard rejection.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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GeniuzKhrist

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Why the **** do you need advice if you already said you would't touch her with a ten foot pole? I mean we could all pitch in and donate and get you a 20ft pole, but I don't care for you that much.
 

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Rejection is a frame. Your frame should be that you really like her too, but you just don't date co-workers. Isn't that sad? It's Lifetime movie stuff. It's a rejection that makes her hug you and cry and love you forever.
 

Dingo

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Tell her your gay...

She's HR and her pop is higher up... Don't envy you.
 

Lozboss

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Use the Professional/Personal barrier.

Tease her: "I'd love to but what would people say if I was seen out with HR" and smirk.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yewki

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Your frame should be that you really like her too, but you just don't date co-workers. Isn't that sad? It's Lifetime movie stuff. It's a rejection that makes her hug you and cry and love you forever.
I don't think letting her know that you "really like" her is wise. It might encourage her to flirt more, and it's basically opening the door for feelings to escalate and then some type of situation to unfold at work.
 
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