"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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how to converse with a group of girls

spesmilitis

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I eat in crowded areas, and I always find myself eating with a group of random girls. Their in proximity, I make eye contact with one of them, then say hi and introduce myself.

My problem is, I can't get into the conversation much with the group. They start talking about their own topics which I have nothing to add to. Sometimes I can talk to 1 of the girls while the rest talk about their own stuff, but most of the time, im just there.

Anyone who what are some good topics/techniques for a group of random girls.
One good topic is, 'how do you guys know each other?'
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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If you can't DOMINATE the conversation, I wouldn't even try. You've got to be Mr. Charisma. Talk about things that involve all of them, and include them all in the conversation.
 

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Don't listen to negative advice - the more you try and talk to them the easier and more fluent it gets. Talk to them about something happening in showbiz and then lead it back to them, Jacko is always good for this.

Ask them: 'you guys heard about Michael Jackson's going to get a sex change? Thats pretty ****ed up, eh?'

Always have a comment to say afterwards, you've got to be able to run with the topic. You can then say:
'well, thats about the only left he can change. So, say he does it, what do you reckon the first thing he would do after the op? what would you do?'
Bust on them for whatever they say, but don't reply with anything too vulgar, you don't want to come across as creepy!

Listen to what they say without interupting too much, everything people say brings up another link to talk about. Say you ask one of the girls what they did last weekend, and she says she saw a movie, ask what movie it was and whether the whole group went etc. You can keep a conversation going for a long time without actually using any material by just listening and asking questions about the stuff they say. Everybody loves talking about themselves, so by the end you will have come across as a 'cool guy'.

When someone says something that truly interests you, or you have something in common, focus on them like it was just the two of you. If things go well, get the number and then carry on talking to everyone else

There's no trait you have to have before you start talking - just go for it and you'll give off the right vibes and you'll improve with every converstation.

Just go for it - there is no downside!
 

Nighthawk

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whistler said:
If you can't DOMINATE the conversation, I wouldn't even try.
That's what I was going to say.

Act like David Letterman, interview them and tease them about their answers. Be flat-out argumentative if you like (while keeping your cool), thats always worked for me.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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