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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
This is exactly what I used to think before I discovered game. Ok, so you're right that female "game" consists (almost) exclusively of looks, whereas us guys have to be the full package. But that point you're missing is this: as men we are able to work on the things that make us attractive to women (looks, game, finances/ career, confidence, social skills, humour etc), whilst women's attractiveness is almost solely a product of genes, diet, and a (un)healthy lifestyle. Through our actions, we men are able to control how attractive we appear to the opposite sex to a far greater degree than women, who are (largely) helpless in this regard. Plus, the same attributes that make us successful with women make us successful at life as a whole! I think it's the women who should be hating on us.playergamehater said:thats what I hate, for men to be successful with women they have to be perfect everything just like initiatorhater says, but for women they just have to be perfect in the looks department
I'm not perfect in anything and I get women.:kick: What are you talking about?playergamehater said:thats what I hate, for men to be successful with women they have to be perfect everything just like initiatorhater says, but for women they just have to be perfect in the looks department
Still, it's more work for men, women however they can take charge and initiate and they are more likely to get what they want in lifeOnTheWayUp said:This is exactly what I used to think before I discovered game. Ok, so you're right that female "game" consists (almost) exclusively of looks, whereas us guys have to be the full package. But that point you're missing is this: as men we are able to work on the things that make us attractive to women (looks, game, finances/ career, confidence, social skills, humour etc), whilst women's attractiveness is almost solely a product of genes, diet, and a (un)healthy lifestyle. Through our actions, we men are able to control how attractive we appear to the opposite sex to a far greater degree than women, who are (largely) helpless in this regard. Plus, the same attributes that make us successful with women make us successful at life as a whole! I think it's the women who should be hating on us.![]()
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
playergamehater said:Still, it's more work for men, women however they can take charge and initiate and they are more likely to get what they want in life