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This is a good thread
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
This is exactly what I used to think before I discovered game. Ok, so you're right that female "game" consists (almost) exclusively of looks, whereas us guys have to be the full package. But that point you're missing is this: as men we are able to work on the things that make us attractive to women (looks, game, finances/ career, confidence, social skills, humour etc), whilst women's attractiveness is almost solely a product of genes, diet, and a (un)healthy lifestyle. Through our actions, we men are able to control how attractive we appear to the opposite sex to a far greater degree than women, who are (largely) helpless in this regard. Plus, the same attributes that make us successful with women make us successful at life as a whole! I think it's the women who should be hating on us.playergamehater said:thats what I hate, for men to be successful with women they have to be perfect everything just like initiatorhater says, but for women they just have to be perfect in the looks department
I'm not perfect in anything and I get women.:kick: What are you talking about?playergamehater said:thats what I hate, for men to be successful with women they have to be perfect everything just like initiatorhater says, but for women they just have to be perfect in the looks department
Still, it's more work for men, women however they can take charge and initiate and they are more likely to get what they want in lifeOnTheWayUp said:This is exactly what I used to think before I discovered game. Ok, so you're right that female "game" consists (almost) exclusively of looks, whereas us guys have to be the full package. But that point you're missing is this: as men we are able to work on the things that make us attractive to women (looks, game, finances/ career, confidence, social skills, humour etc), whilst women's attractiveness is almost solely a product of genes, diet, and a (un)healthy lifestyle. Through our actions, we men are able to control how attractive we appear to the opposite sex to a far greater degree than women, who are (largely) helpless in this regard. Plus, the same attributes that make us successful with women make us successful at life as a whole! I think it's the women who should be hating on us.![]()
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
playergamehater said:Still, it's more work for men, women however they can take charge and initiate and they are more likely to get what they want in life