"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How To Attract A Shy Lady?

AverageHero

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Hi everyone,

I'm in love with a lady in work. She is a feminine, quiet, intelligent, lady. In saying that, she is by no means a pushover.

I have been doing my thing (relatively alpha male stuff ) around her. She is either not buying it, or is too quiet to show she is liking it. All the other girls are into it, but she is not so much.

Is there any specific way to attract a shyer girl? Is it better to appear not-as-alpha? Or perhaps just go for it?

As always, appreciate all answers.

Thanks folks
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Why do you want to waste your time attracting this girl only when you can get other chicks with your personality..

if you need this chick that badly simply use an another chick you already gamed.use the other chick as a wingwomen or a female friend.
 

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With all this "relatively alpha male" stuff you're doing around her, it seems you've forgotten to speak with her.

If you had any kind of rapport with her, it wouldn't be hard to invite her for drinks. Once you have her one-on-one, you can make some moves.
 

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BillieAnn said:
First learn how to become friends with her.
I hope to god this is sarcasm.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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once again, this is an amazing illustration of how well games work

you are focusing all your attention on the one girl who isn't showing you overt interest
 

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Somebody here had said that this kinda shyness is basically the same thing as a lack of interest, which my own experience confirms. Just think about it for a second and you will see what I mean. Women are never too shy when they want something or someone- keep that in mind.
 

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She is shy enough in general. I like her, however I don't want to fall into a friend zone. I suppose I should just keep doing my thing, and not showering her with attention like an AFC right?
 

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AverageHero said:
She is shy enough in general. I like her, however I don't want to fall into a friend zone. I suppose I should just keep doing my thing, and not showering her with attention like an AFC right?
I can't imagine how you'd fall into the friend zone. It's not like you're spending months and months getting to know her, talking about relationships and cupcakes.

All you'd have to do is build some kind of rapport with her where you're comfortable enough to say, "Yo, let's go to happy hour tonight."

Once you're outside and away from coworkers, use some kino, have some drinks, and see what happens.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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i'm with anti-dump on this one

shy girls lose you

we talk so much here about as guys having to get out of comfort zones, approach women, overcome our fears etc.

well that goes for women as well. she can stay in her shell, but she can't stay in her shell and HAVE ME
 

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Aaron B said:
i'm with anti-dump on this one

shy girls lose you

we talk so much here about as guys having to get out of comfort zones, approach women, overcome our fears etc.

well that goes for women as well. she can stay in her shell, but she can't stay in her shell and HAVE ME

even shy women are in fact women. they might not just jump out and start blwoing you in the lounge room, but they will make it known that they want to be presued.

I remember when I was in AA and I had just got clean, well not JUST got clean but i was new in recovery, about 5 months or so in. Just getting into shape, getting my swag back to to speak, i was feeling good about myself. For the first 6 months in my recovery I lived in a chem free house, well not lived htere, i still had a house, but i had to cheeck in and go to sleep at the chem free house. Anyway, one day i get back frrom the gym, there is this new chick. She's cute. Nice body, verynice body, not super hot face but definatly bangable. about a solid HB 6.5-7.

so I give her and everyone else a ride to the AA meeting. we go to the meeting, it is what it is, i drop them off and go back home. the next day i am sitting around getting ready to go to sleep and she just shows up and sits by me, doesnt' say 2 words. but she's really cute and you can stell she's really nice. just shy as ****. But still i'm not thinking anything of it. the next day she starts to talk and just ask off the wall questions. I mention I'm going to a meeting by myself, she asks can she tag along. After the meeting she asks "if you have something you need to do before you drop me off at the center you can do so i'm not in a hurry" lol. I knew then she liked me.

Mind you at the tiem I was driving a 98 Lexus SC300 (in 2004), the next day she comes up to me, gives me the keys to her car which was I think a 2004 or 2005 malibu, nice car... (showing her value) tells me or asks me to drive her to somewhere i forgot where becuase she didn't know where it was. by now, she's just become my tag along. Anywhere I'm going she's going. Hadn't said one word about dating, haven't kissed, but I knew. Anyway, about 1 saturday later, i had a date, went on the date, date ended earlier than I thought it would, she calls me and asks me would i mind driving out of town with her to a friends house. I'm like cool whatever. we go and she asks how my date went, I told her it didn't go so well, the girl was not my type, and she says "well you are looking in the wrong places" with kinda a smirk on her face. turns out the girl was freaking crazy about me. we started dating about a week later, actually one of the better relationships I have had besides my wife I have now. probably the 2nd best honestly. GREAT GF. i could take that girl to mcdonalds (and did, often) and she would be happy as long as it was with me. if she had not relapsed we might be still dating.

anyway, my point being, shy girls, even though shy, will let you know in their own way they like you.
 

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Thanks for replying everyone.

It's gotten to the stage where we are teasing each other (she has a very sarcastic sense of humour) which I have matched and outwitted her with in certain circumstances so it is going well.

We were laughing hard on Friday due to our sarcasm and the facial expressions we pull at each other.

I am moving to a department across the other side of the room so we won't be as close as we were though.

Turns out she is just shy at the beginning, she actually seems to be quite an ambitious, determined, and dare I say it, dominant lady - havent experienced that before.

Suppose now I should ask her if she wants to hang out after work?
 
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