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lol. I guess young guys need this info so I'll move it to The Archive.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
How to ask a girl to be your girlfriend?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
machoguy123
Banned
ask her POLITELY and with DESPERATION to be your g/f..a don juan like myself would say to ms. right.."oh baby, oh baby, i want you so badly...every minute of my day im thinking of you..and even though u may not have noticed, i bend down and worship the ground you step on..your eyes are so beautiful that they shame the stars in heaven, like daylight does a lamp..so please, pretty please, can i call you my g/f??" believe me man, this line works..but try to act like you must have her and a good helper is to bend down on your knees. good luck man..the don juan power is with you
Trickster_guy_2001
Don Juan
Macho guy.
Great advice. Lol.
But seriously, what if you did it as a joke? Like, being sarcastic to the girl... I'm thinking Eddie Murphy in Nutty Proffessor ("Buddy Love" character)... would it still be a bad choice, or would it get you extra points for having a sarcastic sense of humor?
Great advice. Lol.
But seriously, what if you did it as a joke? Like, being sarcastic to the girl... I'm thinking Eddie Murphy in Nutty Proffessor ("Buddy Love" character)... would it still be a bad choice, or would it get you extra points for having a sarcastic sense of humor?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
jc7875
Don Juan
All the info im gathering from this is leading to not asking a girl out with words.. but let time take its part ? Maybe she will ask you out , or you both can consider it a date in the meantime ?
Vegas Playa
Don Juan
I don't understand a damm thing you're saying, jc7875. Try again when you sober up, dude.
please.... PLEASE dont tell machoguy that he "could make a great DJ." He will take it to his head... he already has the impression that he's a DJ, and he keeps trying to give newbies extraordinarily AFC advice.... in fact... I'm not so sure he was joking in that post....
dj ben2
Senior Don Juan
i must say someone said "you never ask a girl anything unless its to marry i have asked a girl something once with great response (thanks to david de angelo i think)
can i kiss you?
her: umm ok:
cool, maybe next time then :smile:
can i kiss you?
her: umm ok:
cool, maybe next time then :smile:
you guys take this prize and power stuff way to seriously. whats wrong with just asking her or suggesting it? what happened to being the man and taking the first step, or making the first move. half the info on this site contradicts itself, lol my gosh
you keep waiting for her to ask, and that's the reason most of you dont ever have girlfriends.
you keep waiting for her to ask, and that's the reason most of you dont ever have girlfriends."She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Precursor
Don Juan
That was my mindset so i decided to ask myself.Raikojo17 said:
She responded with a hug and a kiss, and i was so happy. But 2 days later, she said she didn't want a relationship, told me to forget about that, and yeah. Just offering my insights.
jc7875
Don Juan
Mods how can you delete my posts in this thread?
MacAvoy
Banned
Why are you so concerned about having this post deleted?jc7875 said:
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
vagelaras97
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well...if you are at her place there's a way you can ask her!!write her a letter saying how you feel and that you want her to be your girlfriend.Tell her that you must leave and just before you leve give her the letter and ask her to open it when you leave.You'll wait out of the door while she thinks that you left.At the end of the letter you'll be saying:''I'm waiting out of the door for an answer''.When she reads it she'l open the door(give her a big smile).She'll say ''yes'' or ''no''.If she says ''no'' just be confident and don't let it bring you down.Even IF she says ''no'',she'll know that there's a person that likes her.One more thing:SHE WILL LOVE IT!!!!
This is how I did it.
We were out and a little girl said that we looked like a cute couple.
Later on the date I just turned to her and said "You know that little girl said we were a cute couple" and gave her a wink and she knew where I was going with that.
We were out and a little girl said that we looked like a cute couple.
Later on the date I just turned to her and said "You know that little girl said we were a cute couple" and gave her a wink and she knew where I was going with that.
Sophomakhos
Don Juan
You will not ask her to be your girlfriend. She will ask you if she is your girlfriend. That's the way it has usually worked in my experience. Remember, girls think about these things - probably more than you do. I have generally found that, if a girl has been interested in me, she'll ask me fairly soon if we're an item. In fact, the most recent girl I've been dating asked me on our second date if we were a 'thing'. I never even had to suggest it to her.
If you're dating a girl for a while, you should be building up a natural intimacy with her, one that you don't have to explain. In creative writing classes, student novelists are told that they should show rather than tell. That way their reader will be more immersed in the environment and be better able to relate to the story that they're reading about. The same principle holds pretty true with dating women - don't ask her to be your girl, show her that she's your girl.
If you're dating a girl for a while, you should be building up a natural intimacy with her, one that you don't have to explain. In creative writing classes, student novelists are told that they should show rather than tell. That way their reader will be more immersed in the environment and be better able to relate to the story that they're reading about. The same principle holds pretty true with dating women - don't ask her to be your girl, show her that she's your girl.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.