"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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How to act drunk when you are sober

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So I'm back in the world of being single after a 4 year LTR and for the most part it's going pretty well. The one thing I've noticed though lately is that my game when I've been drinking is pretty good and when I haven't been is not all that hot. The obvious solution would be to drink but that's not what I want to do. I don't mind going out and having a beer or two but I hate the feeling that I need to have six beers in me to be ready to go.

I'm wondering what ways y'all have found to make a radically positive state change. Essentially how to get in the same state you are when you have some drinks in you without actually having those drinks. I'd love to hear any thoughts on this but I know many guys go out sarging and do remarkably well without any alcohol. That's where I want to get to!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Mabye try hitting yourself on the head? lol
 

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Contrary to popular belief, you could use NLP to make the necessary adjustment.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Contrary to popular belief, you could use NLP to make the necessary adjustment.
I've seen lots of references to NLP and it's gotten me curious, is there any books, cd's or whatever that you would recommend?
 

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Thanks for response guys. I'll second Slevin's question...how could this be achieved through NLP?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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There's tons of books on the subject on Amazon.com or you can check the Psychology/Self Help sections of your local bookseller.

I don't know any of the new 'entry level' books but Anthony Robbins (yep, the Lurch looking guy that has made people able to walk fire pits during his seminars) is one of the first people actually certified as a NLP practitioner. His popular books "Unlimited Power" and "Awaken the Giant Within" are both based on NLP concepts. Even though they are about 20 years old, they are very sound if you are receptive to accepting a different way to perceive things.
 

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Slevin said:
I've seen lots of references to NLP and it's gotten me curious, is there any books, cd's or whatever that you would recommend?

Richard Bandler wrote a great book entitled Frogs into Princes . I've heard you can download loads of NLP info using "illegal" filesharing programs . . .

Kenrick Cleveland has some stuff worthy of a mention as well. Look for his Dark Side patterns e-book. It's insightful.
 

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Thanks guys. I'm pretty familiar with Tony's work. In fact, one of his tape programs he even talks about using NLP to do exactly what I was asking originally. However, he doesn't go into details about it unfortunately...

I'm definitely going to look into NLP further. I tend to learning better through watching and/or listening so maybe I can find some audios or videos or take a class somewhere. Anyone have any suggestions?
 

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DannyOcean said:
Thanks guys. I'm pretty familiar with Tony's work. In fact, one of his tape programs he even talks about using NLP to do exactly what I was asking originally. However, he doesn't go into details about it unfortunately...

I'm definitely going to look into NLP further. I tend to learning better through watching and/or listening so maybe I can find some audios or videos or take a class somewhere. Anyone have any suggestions?
Go to your local library. They should have a ton of his work on tape or CD. I think his presentations are pretty good and easier to first comprehend. You can always pick up his books afterward for the unabridged version.
 

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I just ordered Frogs Into Princes and will look around for some more NLP stuff. I think some sort of trigger or anchoring would be useful. Anyone do any of that to build confidence in social situations?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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DannyOcean said:
So I'm back in the world of being single after a 4 year LTR and for the most part it's going pretty well. The one thing I've noticed though lately is that my game when I've been drinking is pretty good and when I haven't been is not all that hot. The obvious solution would be to drink but that's not what I want to do. I don't mind going out and having a beer or two but I hate the feeling that I need to have six beers in me to be ready to go.

I'm wondering what ways y'all have found to make a radically positive state change. Essentially how to get in the same state you are when you have some drinks in you without actually having those drinks. I'd love to hear any thoughts on this but I know many guys go out sarging and do remarkably well without any alcohol. That's where I want to get to!
I haven't drank in years and my pick-up game is pretty damn good. You need 1) a bigger set of testicles to approach sober 2) Good conversation skills & 3) motivation. All of them can be improved.
 

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i think all u have to do is just do one approach to break the ice. Whenever im clubbing and i wanna go grind a chick on the D floor, the first grind is so hard to do, but if i gather up the balls to do it, grinding other chicks after my first one is a hell of a lot easier. Same goes for cold approaches.
 

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I think an immediate approach is probably a huge part of that. Once I've done one approach the rest of them become incredibly easy. I almost get "drunk" off that high feeling I get of approaching that first girl (regardless of the outcome). I can't remember who it was about having a mentality of approaching "first set on the right" whenever you enter a new place but I think that's pretty much right on the mark.
 

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Upon reading the thread title, my first thought was: why act drunk when you're sober? But I see you're really talking about something entirely different. False advertising. :p

That's a toughie. I have the opposite problem in that even one drink impairs my judgment enough to make my "game" worse. Best thing I can think of is to just go out and do it, and your comfort level will improve with time. Doing something like dancing and/or going to concerts where you get in a bit of a state could loosen you up a bit, and get the flow going.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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