"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How should you treat girls with boyfriends?

Kal0051

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I'm wondering 'cause I ended up asking out a girl who has a boyfriend. She said yes so now I have a problem. I like this girl and all but dealing with her when she has a boyfriend is a pain.

When I go out with her should I just treat her like a single girl or maybe not escalate all that much?

What would you guys do in my situation?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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There is an extensive thread under The Archive which seems to always get clipped by the anti masta beta's.
 

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R19 said:
There is an extensive thread under The Archive which seems to always get clipped by the anti masta beta's.
what's the thread called?
 

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The Archive "I have a boyfriend"
 

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R19 said:
The Archive "I have a boyfriend"
That thread has nothing to do with me. She said yes when I asked her out, not "I have a boyfriend".

What I wanted to know is how you guys would handle this situation.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Kal0051 said:
That thread has nothing to do with me. She said yes when I asked her out, not "I have a boyfriend".

What I wanted to know is how you guys would handle this situation.
I was trying to add a different splitter topic within that thread as opposed to the 1,000,001st one. I repeatedly have had situations / boyfriends not disclosed or hidden from me. So much so that I now expect I am only one of several guys in play. I view the responsibility to be on those in the relationship.

Yeah, you'll go out with her and never run into him - ever... Hopefully he's a 'nice guy'.
 

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Who cares if she has a boyfriend Did you make that commitment to the guy or did she? What are you all of a sudden in charge of making she she sticks to traditional morals? Treat her like any other girl. You may get rejected because of the boyfriend but at least then you'll know where you stand. Just escalate as normal.
 
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