How should a cold approach look?

[Plinco]

um duh?

Good job on the lay!

Yeah that's my experience with him too.

 

[Cheeky_James]

I figured you would. It's cringe for me to read because I prefer to go straight to the facts.

Facts .. right..
read this then. It’s about as close to facts as there is.

Women’s Sexual Desire, and Why Men Often Don’t Recognize It | The Hart Centre

Expert tips on love, marriage & couples counselling. Insights from The Hart Centre to help you reconnect and strengthen your relationship.

www.thehartcentre.com.au

 

[Cheeky_James]

for some reason his posts are deleted. but yeah there never was a fat indian girl. i said the race of the girl i had banged was of indian decent and then he posted a random stockphoto of some fat indian girl on google search. because to him all indian girls are fat obviously

um duh?

Nice peachy ass on that fat chick Velasco!
Very nice

 

[Ricky]

I will take some time and read the whole thread but wanted to post some thoughts on cold approach

my most successful cold approaches have been ones where i start with a situational opener and have a great conversation and leave her with ambiguity about my interest and intention but most importantly i close with them.

i have always been a fan of indirect game.

 

[Plinco]

Facts .. right..
read this then. It’s about as close to facts as there is.

Women’s Sexual Desire, and Why Men Often Don’t Recognize It | The Hart Centre

Expert tips on love, marriage & couples counselling. Insights from The Hart Centre to help you reconnect and strengthen your relationship.

www.thehartcentre.com.au

I'm not saying that there isn't substance to what you're saying. My autistic mind interprets your communication style as emotionally unstable. Don't be offended by it I'm just being blunt.

 

[Cheeky_James]

I have absolutely no problem with guys being direct, because I think it's all essentially more or less irrelevant over a decent sample size (i.e, direct and indirect will both work just fine if you open a girl who thinks you're hot, and both will fail if you open a girl who would swipe left hard on you if it was tinder).

But Characternote…
Most guys that hang around forums don’t fall into the ‘hot’ bracket dude.
Hot dudes/ Chad & Co’s don’t really use forums to get tips … so bit of a flawed premise there tbh.

I’d imagine most guys that use forums.. fall into the Maybe pile. Not the Hot pile….

 

[Cheeky_James]

I'm not saying that there isn't substance to what you're saying. My autistic mind interprets your communication style as emotionally unstable. Don't be offended by it I'm just being blunt.

that’s fine. Maybe I am
Anyway, just rewatched that video you linked to me.
That’s awesome. This is what I’ve found personally with experiences picking up women. Safety is a massive thing I’ve found from talking to them.
That sequence of Safety- > Arousal->Desire for women is spot on. Every guy approaching women ought to memorise that one. cheers Plinco.

@Sega Genesis - question for you re this..

In online dating , what would be the quickest and most efficient way for me to communicate that I am a safe dude to women ? All this texting various women on apps gets exhausting tbh….i need some stuff I can copy and paste in the early chats .(lol) to move on quickly …to arousal
I should probably go back to sending voice notes .
Voice notes are better than texting…answering the same Q’s over and over is a head melter.

 

[Sega Genesis]

Facts .. right..

Women’s Sexual Desire, and Why Men Often Don’t Recognize It | The Hart Centre

Expert tips on love, marriage & couples counselling. Insights from The Hart Centre to help you reconnect and strengthen your relationship.

www.thehartcentre.com.au

Every man should read this^ article. Spot on and was exactly what I was referring to in my previous and what great seducers of women understand. Her need to feel desired by you (for more than just a lay) directly ties in to her emotions.

Will some women respond positively to direct Mode One? Of course! In some cases she need not even find you hot, she's using you to fill her never-ending quest for validation.

Would you even know the difference? Her behavior is the same in many instances. You think it's some special power you have or Good Game when all you were to her was a way to fill a void and her need for validation.

That's why in some instances she'll leave immediately after or the next day and ghost. OR she won't care if you do.

In my circle of friends, Mode One can feel debasing. When meeting online (or less common in real life), she thinks "dude doesn't even know me other than looking at my pics gave him a boner." Ugh.

That is NOT how a quality feminine woman feels desired guys. It's just not.

When I was on the apps years ago and a man opened with messages like that-- "Hey you're hot, DTF tonight"? Or "Hey you're pretty wanna hook up"? Or what CJ wrote earlier "Hey it's clear we like each other (because she swiped right), we should hook up" - they went straight to TRASH.

That said again there are women who will go for it, I know some of them!

IF her need for validation overrides her need to feel desired, she's in!

 

[Cheeky_James]

Every man should read this^ article. Spot on and was exactly what I was referring to in my previous and what great seducers of women understand. Her need to feel desired by you (for more than just a lay) directly ties in to her emotions.

Will some women respond positively to direct Mode One? Of course! In some cases she need not even find you hot, she's using you to fill her never-ending quest for validation.

Would you even know the difference? Her behavior is the same in many instances. You think it's some special power you have or Good Game when all you were to her was a way to fill a void and her need for validation.

That's why in some instances she'll leave immediately after or the next day and ghost. OR she won't care if you do.

In my circle of friends, Mode One can feel debasing to a 'quality' chick. When meeting online (or less common in real life), she thinks dude doesn't even know me other than looking at my pics gave him a boner.

That is NOT how a quality feminine woman feels desired guys. It's just not.

When I was on the apps years ago and a man opened with messages like that-- "Hey you're hot, DTF tonight"? Or "Hey you're pretty wanna hook up"? Or what CJ wrote earlier "Hey it's clear we like each other (because she swiped right), we should hook up" - they went straight to TRASH.

That said again there are women who will go for it, I know some of them!

IF her need for validation overrides her need to feel desired, she's in!

SG- I agree with pretty much everything you wrote there.
I looked into ARCs mode one, pretty thoroughly.
It doesn’t add up. ARC claimed he managed to get BJ in a supermarket aisle. If he did, she wasn’t a hot woman. No chance.

most women will find that talk vulgar, not ballsy.

ARC said he was inspired by a porno movie called “talk dirty to me”. Cool, but that’s a porno. With a very handsome lead actor btw..

And also that’s not my opener verbatim .. that’s the ‘frame ‘ of my comms, hinted at , or in subtext of what I say to women in texting. I start chats w a focus and agreement of common physical chemistry as the basis of why we are talking. Solidify that. Then go for safety /comfort/connection stuff. My tuning process is quite long tbh. Too long! Women sure do love to talk … sheeit.

 

[Sega Genesis]

I just want to clarify, I am not entirely again Mode One. From my perspective if sex IS all he wants (and some men will be clear about that) then I actually appreciate it.

Why? Because in addition to saving him time/money/effort it also saves ME time in not wasting my time trying to get to know him (and him getting to know me). Or envisioning something substantial developing from our interaction.

The "saves time" issue goes both ways.

 

[Cheeky_James]

@Sega Genesis
I follow on to what you said re great seducers..
yes. Most guys I’ve personally met IRL who I would consider ‘seducers’ and the ones I’ve read about also, charm the woman and make the woman feel “special” .. like she’s unique , and she inspires him. Etc

Never read Casanovas biography. But I’d imagine that’s how it did it also. With his upper class ladies.
That’s how all the old school seducers did it afaik.

to me there’s a difference between the terms ‘Game ‘ and ‘Seduction’.

Seduction has a particular definition. It’s a lot about ‘charming ’ .. charm includes being insincere ie fake. So it’s got manipulation elements. The woman knows this , but it feels too good , so she gets charmed into it. That’s seduction to me. It’s different to being a truly authentically great guy.

I knew a great Brazilian seducer .
He was a total manipulator and user , haha.
A very bad dude in fact. But he did very well with the ladies. Go figure..

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

SG- I agree with pretty much everything you wrote there.
I looked into ARCs mode one, pretty thoroughly.
It doesn’t add up.

What doesn't "add up" about Mode One?

ARC claimed he managed to get BJ in a supermarket aisle.

Yes, that is probably his most infamous story .

If he did, she wasn’t a hot woman. No chance.

Maybe she isn't hot to you. But she was hot, to him.

You don't get to decide who is/isn't hot to the next man.

most women will find that talk vulgar, not ballsy.

Mode One guys don't give a damn about women finding our talk vulgar.

We only care about making our desires/intentions clear and concise..without the all bullshiit fluff and feathers.

Either she is down with it, or she ain't ..and we dont wait until we are 2-3 dates in to find out.

ARC said he was inspired by a porno movie called “talk dirty to me”. Cool, but that’s a porno. With a very handsome lead actor btw..

True, that movie is what inspired his Mode One philosophy.

The actress in the movie is what ARC describes as a "Wholesome Pretender" in his five female archetypes.

But your insinuation of "it's just a porno, it doesn't happen in real life" is not true.

ARC stated that the vast majority of women that he has slept with were also wholesome pretenders, just like the actress in the movie.

 

[Sega Genesis]

Mode One guys don't give a damn about women finding our talk vulgar.

^^Thanks Venom, we (women) get that. Loud and clear..

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I usually only initiate a cold approach after she holds eye contact with me. Sometimes I look first, sometimes I catch the girl staring and that's when I have a green light to go (either situation).

I certainly do the same thing.

Catch her staring or stealing glances.

Unless you are interestingly ugly, those are usually good signs.

Otherwise I feel it's weird to approach blindly.

I always suggest approaching blindly.

Not every woman who finds you attractive will stare at you.

By approaching blindly, you may be the $100 bill that the wind unexpectedly blows in their face.

They weren't looking for it, but glad it found them.

And a lot of times, the woman will choose you during the interaction.

Then if I get a greenlight, what I've done in the past is:
Hi/excuse me (depending on if she's still facing me)
Her: Yes?
Me: How are you.
Her: Hi, good.
Me: I'm Antonious.
Her: I'm Stacy.
Me: I think you look cute. Do you wanna get to know eachother?
And then wait for a response.
-If yes, I try to go for a number, but I see no issue with her giving me her ig.

I like it .

Although I don't like asking for her name, until she agrees to take my #.

A more succesful approach I've done, had a bit more talking in it.

Is this how a cold approach should look?

 

[Cheeky_James]

What doesn't "add up" about Mode One?

Yes, that is probably his most infamous story .

Maybe she isn't hot to you. But she was hot, to him.

You don't get to decide who is/isn't hot to the next man.

Mode One guys don't give a damn about women finding our talk vulgar.

We only care about making our desires/intentions clear and concise..without the all bullshiit fluff and feathers.

Either she is down with it, or she ain't ..and we dont wait until we are 2-3 dates in to find out.

well , it’s been a long time since I read his book /researched it. And can’t recall exactly his lines from the book etc But I came across a video clip of a seminar w ARC and David X. Where both did did a ‘demo ‘ of their style on some chick. ARC didn’t speak direct like his books in his pickup demo. And David X was pretty tame too tbh.
So it didn’t add up.

re Hot chicks .. cmon man. It’s male group consensus if a chick is Hot or Not. Otherwise all the chicks I've ever banged were either models or supermodels (to me)

(RSD Jeffy claims to have banged 400 chicks.this may be true ..maybe 100 in the back of his Freedom Van even. (Cool) but I’m betting the vast majority were not great looking. )

True, that movie is what inspired his Mode One philosophy.

The actress in the movie is what ARC describes as a "Wholesome Pretender" in his five female archetypes.

But your insinuation of "it's just a porno, it doesn't happen in real life" is not true.

ARC stated that the vast majority of women that he has slept with were also wholesome pretenders, just like the actress in the movie.

yes. It’s just a porno.
All women are kinda wholesome pretenders dude ..
Hot women only drop the mask for Hot Guys tho.
They can get away w it. An average dude is called a ‘creep’ ya know?

I recall you talking about ‘Body Game’ Venom.. so you are a maybe a tall dude w a big rig. Maybe tattoos . A Bad Boy.
So maybe your a Hot Guy and can pull it off. Idk.

I’m gonna go back and search up this ARC stuff anyways now. See if I can tone it down a notch. I could do with more efficiency.

can you give me a few examples of lines you would say to a chick on Online Dating ?. Thanks.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

well , it’s been a long time since I read his book /researched it. And can’t recall exactly his lines from the book etc But I came across a video clip of a seminar w ARC and David X. Where both did did a ‘demo ‘ of their style on some chick. ARC didn’t speak direct like his books in his pickup demo. And David X was pretty tame too tbh.
So it didn’t add up.

Peep this video.

This is ARC giving a short, masterclass demo on his approach....and on what appears to be examples of his cold approaches.

Less than a 5 minute video.

I don't know what vid you are referring to, but this is legit to me.

This is some smooth stuff, and you all should watch this video, and learn something.

Mode One 4 Life!!!

re Hot chicks .. cmon man. It’s male group consensus if a chick is Hot or Not. Otherwise all the chicks I've ever banged were either models or supermodels (to me)

Ok, so please enlighten me; based on male group consensus, what is a "hot" chick?

(RSD Jeffy claims to have banged 400 chicks.this may be true ..maybe 100 in the back of his Freedom Van even. (Cool) but I’m betting the vast majority were not great looking. )

All that is required, is for those women to be great looking to him.

If I like pineapples on my pizza, why would/should I give a FUK whether Cheeky_James find my pizza appetizing?

WTH? That's some beta shiit (no offense to you).

yes. It’s just a porno.
All women are kinda wholesome pretenders dude ..
Hot women only drop the mask for Hot Guys tho.

I'm still waiting on you to describe what a "hot woman" looks like.

They can get away w it. An average dude is called a ‘creep’ ya know?

Yeah, but that creep to one woman, could be a "hot guy" to the next one.

Looks are subjective.

I recall you talking about ‘Body Game’ Venom.. so you are a maybe a tall dude w a big rig. Maybe tattoos . A Bad Boy.
So maybe your a Hot Guy and can pull it off. Idk.

I certainly emphasize body game...and I am a gym-regular...lift heavy...tall, stocky build...and I get compliments on my phisique on a almost daily basis.

But truth be told, I had a chick who told her work acquaintance, that my phisique is too "big", and that's why she didn't want to pursue a romantic relationship with me.

Thus, my point.

As good as I think I look to the average woman, I understand that I'm not every woman's cup of tea.

But on the flip side, not every woman is my cup of tea either.

So hey.

I’m gonna go back and search up this ARC stuff anyways now. See if I can tone it down a notch. I could do with more efficiency.

can you give me a few examples of lines you would say to a chick on Online Dating ?. Thanks.

I don't do Online Dating...and haven't in over 15 years.

I know OLD is the way of the dating world now, but to me, it is beta.

I just simply like cold approaching...it provides such a sense of masculine fulfillment, that no other method provides.

Literally, as I am having sex with a woman, I reflect on the fact that I am in this puzzy, because of my own courageous and confident actions....something that OLD doesn't provide.
...

 

[Velasco]

I'm still waiting on you to describe what a "hot woman" looks like

hot:

not hot:

Do you have any dealbreaker fetishes?

Most guys have at least one fetish (many guys even have multiple fetishes). I myself have multiple fetishes. Only one fetish is a dealbreaker though. So, does anyone else have any dealbreaker fetishes (as in, you would lose interest if she's unwilling to engage in the fetish)? I might share...

www.sosuave.net

 

[Plinco]

hot:

not hot:

Do you have any dealbreaker fetishes?

Most guys have at least one fetish (many guys even have multiple fetishes). I myself have multiple fetishes. Only one fetish is a dealbreaker though. So, does anyone else have any dealbreaker fetishes (as in, you would lose interest if she's unwilling to engage in the fetish)? I might share...

www.sosuave.net

Well that also proves @We_ArE_VeNOM 's point too. Each person has their own preferences. Check out this thread for more reference:

Pics - Post a pic of what you think is HB10

I want to see what everyone thinks is HB10, it should be interesting. Since attraction is genetic (i.e. what one person likes strongly another won't). I'll post mine once I find it rofl. Rules Choose two pics, one real, one not! Then everyone can be satisfied :P

www.sosuave.net

Personally I think Sicily Rose is what I would call a 10/10

Sicily Rose

Model, actress and singer who has been represented by Wilhemina Models.

www.famousbirthdays.com

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

hot:

not hot:

Do you have any dealbreaker fetishes?

Most guys have at least one fetish (many guys even have multiple fetishes). I myself have multiple fetishes. Only one fetish is a dealbreaker though. So, does anyone else have any dealbreaker fetishes (as in, you would lose interest if she's unwilling to engage in the fetish)? I might share...

www.sosuave.net

.

Jessica Alba, aye? Let's take a look at her full body, shall we.

Let's see what she's got...


Titties too small, so not hot to me.


Compared to...

Titties are huge, so is hot to me.


See how that works, Junior?

 

[Cheeky_James]

.

Jessica Alba, aye? Let's take a look at her full body, shall we.

Let's see what she's got...


Titties too small, so not hot to me.
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Compared to...

Titties are huge, so is hot to me.
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See how that works, Junior?

So we have figured out WAV is a tit man.
Good man Venom.
Those are some BIG cannons. Woah.

I like em stacked also, gotta say. Hard to go past.

Current fave ; Amanda Rabbit


the theme song to go with it