Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

Read more...

How realistic was this argument within a marriage?

Travel memoir21

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 20, 2020
Messages
2,021
Reaction score
1,151
Age
40
Location
Rio Grande Valley, Texas
Sometimes I like to watch movies with an Indie tone with great acting and I thought I'd give this one a shot and watch it.

Just how realistic was this argument scene with Scarlet and Adam Driver? I thought sadly this maybe the case with how a lot of arguments end up these days with the many changes within our culture.

I bet lots of dudes here has had arguments just as intense as this one if not more.

 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

Read more...

Pierce Manhammer

Moderator
Joined
Jun 2, 2021
Messages
4,900
Reaction score
5,868
Location
PRC
Not sure it’s that far off from millennial existence these days…

If you guys wanna engage in an interesting experiment, simply do exactly the same thing that a woman is doing to you Word for Word point for point.

If you’re having a texting argument, copy and paste her words that bugged you about 20 sentences in and see how she reacts meaning turn it around on her. You’d be amazed that she doesn’t even recognize her own words and how incensed she is going to be.

Seriously try it. The beginning of that clip she compares him to his parents and it’s OK but when he dares to do it oh crap, Ola.
 

logicallefty

Moderator
Joined
Apr 26, 2006
Messages
6,000
Reaction score
5,151
Age
52
Location
Northeast Florida, USA
Not sure it’s that far off from millennial existence these days…

If you guys wanna engage in an interesting experiment, simply do exactly the same thing that a woman is doing to you Word for Word point for point.

If you’re having a texting argument, copy and paste her words that bugged you about 20 sentences in and see how she reacts meaning turn it around on her. You’d be amazed that she doesn’t even recognize her own words and how incensed she is going to be.

Seriously try it. The beginning of that clip she compares him to his parents and it’s OK but when he dares to do it oh crap, Ola.
This absolutely works! Done it many times with multiple women.
 

corrector

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 12, 2009
Messages
10,398
Reaction score
4,068
Sometimes I like to watch movies with an Indie tone with great acting and I thought I'd give this one a shot and watch it.

Just how realistic was this argument scene with Scarlet and Adam Driver? I thought sadly this maybe the case with how a lot of arguments end up these days with the many changes within our culture.

I bet lots of dudes here has had arguments just as intense as this one if not more.

No it's not realistic at all, obviously, this is a movie and it's designed to entertain. There is certain things you just don't say in a heated argumment like that. But it goes to show that resentment builds up if you are sacrificing your potential and what you could have been, have a second rate-life with your wife and she in turn ends up resenting you rather than respecting the sacrifices you made to make the relationship work. In a sense, conceptually guys do all the hard work and sacrificing and women just complain and nag and jump ship when another guy who is not sick of her or knows her ugly side starts off with her while you are left high and dry.

Technically my marriage would appear to have ended on an altercation, but I didn't express those types of feelings about her to her face. We haven't been together that long to build up that level of resentment. However, the circumstances in which the marriage came apart or lead to divorce were so asinine that it did piss me off with her at the moment, and perhaps I was more passive-aggressive with the way I chose to express any quarrel (ie write-ups on legal papers, facebook posts, etc....). Sometimes a good heated arguement like that is the best because it's private and they are not making a spectical of themselves. However, even so, words said can't be unsaid or taken back and a wrong word in a wrong tone can just lead to things coming to an end.

As a movie their acting is good, but lets face it, both these actors / actress are millionaires and well-off and people who have money don't get into arguments like that. It's usually when things get tight and arrangements behind the premise of the marriage become he said she said and there are disagreements all over the place is when things really come apart fast.
 
Last edited:

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

Read more...

Pierce Manhammer

Moderator
Joined
Jun 2, 2021
Messages
4,900
Reaction score
5,868
Location
PRC
In marriages, in conversations that are blow outs like that you tend to learn a lot about your partner you might’ve suspected but didn’t know empirically. When they’re hurt they go for the jugular.
 

derby1

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 10, 2017
Messages
3,244
Reaction score
3,403
Not sure it’s that far off from millennial existence these days…

If you guys wanna engage in an interesting experiment, simply do exactly the same thing that a woman is doing to you Word for Word point for point.

If you’re having a texting argument, copy and paste her words that bugged you about 20 sentences in and see how she reacts meaning turn it around on her. You’d be amazed that she doesn’t even recognize her own words and how incensed she is going to be.

Seriously try it. The beginning of that clip she compares him to his parents and it’s OK but when he dares to do it oh crap, Ola.
A plate bumped into me with another woman yesterday. she was furious

HOWEVER
2 nights before she was out drinking with a friend and a guy commented on her photo "let us join you both for drinks ;)"

She replied to him "Absolutely"

when I countered her initial fury with this hypocrisy.

Her reply ? "F**K off you F*cking Idiot" :rofl:
 

Gamisch

Master Don Juan
Joined
May 2, 2022
Messages
5,339
Reaction score
6,241
Sometimes I like to watch movies with an Indie tone with great acting and I thought I'd give this one a shot and watch it.

Just how realistic was this argument scene with Scarlet and Adam Driver? I thought sadly this maybe the case with how a lot of arguments end up these days with the many changes within our culture.

I bet lots of dudes here has had arguments just as intense as this one if not more.

Oh yeah ofcourse this looks familiar. No marriage is needed, a 4 months LTR can be so intense you'll be having this conversation with a woman. This happens when you REFUSE TO LEAVE.

- dead bedroom
-below the belt insults
-hypocrisy

The list goes on and on. This happens when you stay with a woman who lost all attraction to you.

Scarlett Johansson's short haircut is not good at all.
Still a solid 7. I would say maybe even an 8.
No it's not realistic at all, obviously, this is a movie and it's designed to entertain. There is certain things you just don't say in a heated argumment like that. But it goes to show that resentment builds up if you are sacrificing your potential and what you could have been, have a second rate-life with your wife and she in turn ends up resenting you rather than respecting the sacrifices you made to make the relationship work. In a sense, conceptually guys do all the hard work and sacrificing and women just complain and nag and jump ship when another guy who is not sick of her or knows her ugly side starts off with her while you are left high and dry.

Technically my marriage would appear to have ended on an altercation, but I didn't express those types of feelings about her to her face. We haven't been together that long to build up that level of resentment. However, the circumstances in which the marriage came apart or lead to divorce were so asinine that it did piss me off with her at the moment, and perhaps I was more passive-aggressive with the way I chose to express any quarrel (ie write-ups on legal papers, facebook posts, etc....). Sometimes a good heated arguement like that is the best because it's private and they are not making a spectical of themselves. However, even so, words said can't be unsaid or taken back and a wrong word in a wrong tone can just lead to things coming to an end.

As a movie their acting is good, but lets face it, both these actors / actress are millionaires and well-off and people who have money don't get into arguments like that. It's usually when things get tight and arrangements behind the premise of the marriage become he said she said and there are disagreements all over the place is when things really come apart fast.
Bruh. I had women saying MUCH worse things to me than this. This is indeed, two intelligent, civilized people acting like they have a fight. I had women throwing shyt at me, breaking stuff, scratching me opening like a tiger would , screaming till the cops arrive.Real life is WAY worse than this .
 

EyeBRollin

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 18, 2015
Messages
10,539
Reaction score
8,539
Age
37
I haven’t had an argument this intense. And I’ve seen and heard about far worse. What helps me in disagreements is to take deep breaths. Keep it at a disagreement, don’t let it turn into an argument.
 

corrector

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 12, 2009
Messages
10,398
Reaction score
4,068
Oh yeah ofcourse this looks familiar. No marriage is needed, a 4 months LTR can be so intense you'll be having this conversation with a woman. This happens when you REFUSE TO LEAVE.

- dead bedroom
-below the belt insults
-hypocrisy

The list goes on and on. This happens when you stay with a woman who lost all attraction to you.


Still a solid 7. I would say maybe even an 8.

Bruh. I had women saying MUCH worse things to me than this. This is indeed, two intelligent, civilized people acting like they have a fight. I had women throwing shyt at me, breaking stuff, scratching me opening like a tiger would , screaming till the cops arrive.Real life is WAY worse than this .
Yeah like that OF kilker.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

Read more...

Doctor Europeo

Moderator
Joined
Mar 6, 2017
Messages
4,428
Reaction score
4,818
Location
Mexico
Oh yeah ofcourse this looks familiar. No marriage is needed. This happens when you REFUSE TO LEAVE.

- dead bedroom
-below the belt insults
-hypocrisy

The list goes on and on. This happens when you stay with a woman who lost all attraction to you.
So true!!!
 

ubercat

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 6, 2015
Messages
3,671
Reaction score
2,309
Location
Australia
Hmm I do wonder how many relationships implode because yr not managing your woman. I know I had at least 3 probably more. Caveat that many women these days are complete train wrecks and unmanageable.
 

ubercat

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 6, 2015
Messages
3,671
Reaction score
2,309
Location
Australia
This is where I think you US guys should vote with yr feet. I wake up most mornings with my Asian Mrs of 8 years glued to me. Then she gets up and make my coffee. She s an Aussie citizen,
brought herself here no import fee required, post grad, full time nursing teacher. I know 2 other guys with Asian partners same deal. US ladies don't seem to know how to team....or cook.
 

Scaramouche

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 27, 2008
Messages
4,440
Reaction score
1,558
Age
82
Location
Australia
Hi Uber,
Your post is on the money....Mainland Chinese Women are such good value...great in the
sack and cook too...What other women find joy in service?...a shame they have no sense of humour
maybe we should have given them that rather than Opium.
 

jaymbrs

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 27, 2017
Messages
1,966
Reaction score
1,969
Age
39
No it's not realistic at all,
I've had this argument before with my most recent ex. I met her in a city and asked her to move with me to another city where I was being relocated. She agreed and about 6 months in we had this argument about how she never wanted to leave, etc. We both blew up on each other yelling some hurtful things to each other to the point where she said she hoped I kill myself riding my motorcycle. The stunned look I gave her made her realize she went too far and broke down and apologized saying she didn't mean that. Things just weren't the same afterwards.
She also threw a pan of mac and cheese at me that she was making for dinner. Trust me. These arguments happen.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

Read more...

TimothyPrice

Don Juan
Joined
Dec 13, 2022
Messages
30
Reaction score
9
Age
48
My wife and I almost never fight. It’s good to remember your Heartiste basics and not take her too seriously and get sucked in. I love it when we DO have a fight because I bring out some dread game and the sex is hotter for weeks after.
 
Top